Hello Matthew,

You mean the only added value of APR is for TLS when Java version doesn't 
support some cipher suites.

Best Regards.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Broadhead [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: mardi 7 novembre 2017 11:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Question about APR

APR is essential if Java doesn't support the encryption algorithm of the SSL / 
TLS certificate provided by your Certificate authority. It allows Tomcat to be 
trusted by your OS to use the system libraries (e.g.
OpenSSL).  The system libraries can also be faster under certain conditions.  
Only applies if you need a
Connector->SSLHostConfig->Certificate in server.xml.

On 07/11/2017 10:49, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> 2017-11-07 10:43 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois 
> <[email protected]>:
>> Hello Romain,
>>
>> Just to be sure. Your answer is: for production deployment, it is strongly 
>> advised to install APR even if, regarding performance topic, the difference 
>> between APR/HTTP is no more so significant.
> It i no more a high recommandation
>
>> So curiosity question: if APR doesn't bring so much performance increase, 
>> what is the real added value of using APR ? stability ? other ?
> If the load balancing etc is well configured nothing I can think about 
> anymore.
>
>> Best Regards.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: mardi 7 novembre 2017 10:30
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Question about APR
>>
>> Hi François,
>>
>> yes it is the case. Now on a pure performance point of view APR/HTTP is no 
>> more as significant as it was years ago.
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> @rmannibucau |  Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
>>
>>
>> 2017-11-07 10:27 GMT+01:00 COURTAULT Francois 
>> <[email protected]>:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> In the TomEE statup log, I can see this message :
>>> 27-Oct-2017 14:58:44.592 INFO [main] 
>>> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke The APR based Apache Tomcat 
>>> Native library which allows optimal performance in production environments 
>>> was not found on the java.library.path: ....
>>>
>>> So my question is basic: do we need to install APR for production 
>>> environment to improve significantly the TomEE/ Tomcat performance knowing 
>>> that we don't integrate TomEE with native server technology like Apache 
>>> server (eg TomEE standalone)?
>>> My first APR understanding is that it is useful when you integrate Tomcat 
>>> in Apache server (meaning we don't need to install it if we use 
>>> Tomcat/TomEE standalone). Am I right ?
>>>
>>> Best Regards.
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