Regarding the previously raised issue about natural invalidation of PUT/POST 
requests:
Further testing revealed that the solution provided in the previous email was 
incorrect.

I have been testing with the attached patch (patch against 4.1.2), which with 
fairly extensive testing appears to be working well.  However there are three 
concerns with it:

1>     The patch calls do_cache_delete_all_alts() directly, rather than using 
the state machine to specify the 'next_action'.  Without having a detailed 
knowledge of the state machine and valid next-states, I felt it was safer to do 
this - at least for proof of concept pending a more complete patch.

Looking for suggestion on correct TRANSACT_RETURN or next_action for this, or 
if direct call rather than state machine management is correct in this case.

2>     The invalidation happens at the entry of the PUT/POST rather than at the 
exit/return to client.  This would not normally be a problem.  However I have a 
use case where a POST calls a separate webapp to validate the data, which then 
calls back with a GET using the ID.  This GET in the middle of the POST caches 
the object again, before the POST took effect.
Looking for suggestions on where to put the invalidation so that it happens at 
the exit.  (Answer to <1> may correct <2>)

3>     This patch only invalidates alternates if the requested object is in the 
cache.
Scenario:  (Think large multi-faceted web application with multiple client 
plugins, where some plugins use XML and others use JSON)
GET application/xml puts the object in the cache.  POST application/json tries 
to find itself in the cache, but non-existent so doesn't invalidate the 
alternates.  The now-stale application/xml version of the object stays in the 
cache.
                Looking for suggestions to invalidate alternates even if the 
requested object is not in the cache.

Thanks in advance.

-Norm Paxton

From: Norm Paxton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 11:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Cache invalidation for varying media types

Whereas our desire is that a PUT or POST of one content-type causes an 
invalidation not only of that instance of the object, but also of all 
alternates of that object, does it make sense to simply add the PUT and POST as 
additional options to the two s->method checks in 
HttpTransact::delete_all_document_alternates_and_return(), as follows?

  if ((s->method != HTTP_WKSIDX_GET) && (s->method == HTTP_WKSIDX_DELETE || 
s->method == HTTP_WKSIDX_PURGE)) {

to:

  if ((s->method != HTTP_WKSIDX_GET) && (s->method == HTTP_WKSIDX_DELETE || 
s->method == HTTP_WKSIDX_PURGE ||
        s->method == HTTP_WKSIDX_POST || s->method == HTTP_WKSIDX_PUT)) {

and

    if (s->method == HTTP_WKSIDX_PURGE || (valid_max_forwards && max_forwards 
<= 0)) {

to:

    if (s->method == HTTP_WKSIDX_PURGE || s->method == HTTP_WKSIDX_POST || 
s->method == HTTP_WKSIDX_PUT ||
         (valid_max_forwards && max_forwards <= 0)) {


I have built and tested as such, and it behaves at a high level as we desire.  
Will we experience unanticipated side-effects from doing this?  Is there a 
suite of tests that I can run to ensure that all other behavior is unaffected?

Thanks.

-Norm Paxton

From: Norm Paxton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 4:01 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Cache invalidation for varying media types

There was a thread in June or 2013 regarding cache invalidation of multiple 
media types.
(thread:  
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/trafficserver-users/201306.mbox/%3ccdd7790c.27424%[email protected]%3E<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/trafficserver-users/201306.mbox/%253CCDD7790C.27424%2525steve.owens%40email.disney.com%253E&k=wlPCrglRP6kzT4RbABWMaw%3D%3D%0A&r=l7OFdfe5oRC7g5sT34NHIt1cmKfudAyQPYr1BB%2BqIuk%3D%0A&m=HOhRBpsAhe%2BsasH%2FLUaxjZm1wVAYUQrlKZZovk7nueQ%3D%0A&s=0758fdcd5daf78c120a6a9bf6c7d5b1c9b749556b91a2c66f54a7df6f0b8868a>)

Summary of the initial question (Steve Owens):
Is there a configuration (Vary header, proxy.config.http.cache.vary_default_*, 
etc) that would cause that a PUT or POST on a specific URL would cause a cache 
invalidation on all variant media types of that URL?

Summary of ultimate response (Leif Hedstrom):
This sounds like PURGE, but not currently in PUT or POST.  We could look at 
putting that behavior into PUT/POST.

My revisit:

Has any action been taken on this?  (I have searched the changes.log and not 
found anything pertinent, but it is possible that I missed something)
I have a REST api serving data with both 'application/json' and 
'application/xml' content-types for each URL.  Different clients will consume 
one or both of these content-types.  When a POST is invoked with 
'application/json', my assumption is that the cache server should invalidate 
the object for 'application/xml' as well, as this is a variant representation 
of the same object.   In my testing, I consistently get unexpected (according 
to my understanding and expectations) results:
Here's a summarized log of what I see

  GET      application/xml                 TCP_HIT                              
 baseline
  GET      application/json               TCP_HIT                               
baseline

  POST   application/xml                 TCP_REFRESH_MISS       expected
  GET      application/json               TCP_HIT                               
unexpected/incorrect/stale data
  GET      application/xml                 TCP_MISS                           
expected
  GET      application/xml                 TCP_HIT                              
 expected

I have tried setting the 'proxy.config.http.cache.vary_default_text' and 
'...vary_default_other' to Accept, and also setting the Vary header to Accept 
in my response, all to no avail.  I have also tried Accept values of 
"text/html", "text/json", "text/xml", "text/plain" - in case th 
e'proxy.config.http.cache.vary_default_text' only looks at 'text/' media type 
prefixes, also with no luck.  (Based on ATS documentation, and other sources, I 
am lead to believe that the correct header to Vary on is Accept, as opposed to 
Content-Type.  Correct?)

I have confirmed that I can invoke a 'PURGE' on the URL, which will cause 
desired end-results, but this requires that upon any PUT/POST request, I will 
need to, as part of my processing, explicitly invoke a PURGE in code to 
invalidate the cache for that object, which is undesirable.  For some 
developers/situations, it may even be prohibitive.

Is there  plans to change the behavior in a future release, or am I stuck with 
self-invoking a PURGE request inside code handling my PUT/POST request?
Or are there other options for configuring this that I have not found/tried?

Thanks

-Norm Paxton




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