You make a good point.  A Wicket model is inherently tied to Wicket (it has
to implement IModel).  Perhaps I am a little too anal sometimes :)

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Why? The model is nothing more than a locator, a bridge if you like
> between your data stuff and the view layer. There is no reason why it
> shouldn't be able to work with the view component. There is absolutely
> no reason why one should get all anal about separating classes that
> live in the user interface layer. It is not like wicket components are
> bleading into your domain layer...
>
> Martijn
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:38 PM, James Carman
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does anyone use a custom validator to implement this type of stuff?  I'm
> not
> > crazy about a model implementing this functionality, especially during a
> > "get" operation.  Also, your model has to be aware of your view (the call
> to
> > the form's clearInput() method).  I don't know.  Something about it just
> > doesn't seem right to me.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:32 PM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Using this, you have to make sure this model gets reset on form submit,
> >> too, right?  With this, you have to make sure you reset the model's
> cached
> >> version value upon successful form submit, too, right?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Martijn Dashorst <
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> something like:
> >>>
> >>> protected Object load() {
> >>>    Entity entity = ...;
> >>>    if(entity.getVersion() != version) {
> >>>        Session.get().warn("Someone else modified the foo in the
> >>> database, please review these changes and re-enter your data.");
> >>>        version = entity.getVersioni();
> >>>        form.clearInput();
> >>>    }
> >>>    return entity;
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> Martijn
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:00 PM, James Carman
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> > Somehow you have to reset the cached version value (assume you'd use
> a
> >>> > validator for this I guess), since it's not the same as the one in
> the
> >>> db,
> >>> > right?
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Martijn Dashorst <
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> The user doesn't have to refresh, because she already gets the new
> >>> >> values... that is why there's optimistic locking in place. One
> >>> >> solution would be to clear the user input and have them re-enter the
> >>> >> data.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Martijn
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:23 PM, James Carman <
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >> > Right, you'll have to figure out what you want to do at that
> point.
> >>>  You
> >>> >> > could set an error message telling them to refresh the screen I
> guess
> >>> (as
> >>> >> > long as it's a bookmarkable URL and it will actually refresh
> stuff)?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Martijn Dashorst <
> >>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> Why?
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> There's nothing keeping you from storing the version too, and
> >>> checking
> >>> >> >> that against the newly loaded entity... The question is... what
> do
> >>> you
> >>> >> >> do when the version is modified from your original object?
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Martijn
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:11 PM, James Carman <
> >>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >> > There are many ways to skin a cat.  LDMs pretty much throw
> >>> optimistic
> >>> >> >> > locking out the window, agreed (since they just go get a
> "fresh"
> >>> copy
> >>> >> of
> >>> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> > object each time typically)?  So, if you want to use optimistic
> >>> >> locking,
> >>> >> >> > then you shouldn't be using LDMs in the first place.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Erik van Oosten <
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >> >> >wrote:
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> So I guess you're not levering the optimistic locking of
> >>> Hibernate.
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Regards,
> >>> >> >> >>    Erik.
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> James Carman wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>> It would work the same way, since it grabs its stuff
> up-front.
> >>> >>  Behind
> >>> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >>> scenes, you use a LDM as the actual model.
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Daan van Etten <[EMAIL 
> >>> >> >> >>> PROTECTED]
> >
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> Hi James,
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>> How does this work with a Hibernate-managed object? Did you
> >>> test it
> >>> >> >> with
> >>> >> >> >>>> Hibernate?
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> >> Erik van Oosten
> >>> >> >> >> http://www.day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
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