I'm not bashing Rails, I'm just got bored from the Rails guys and how they
underestimate Java culture (the language, frameworks and the performance !!)
When I say Rails is a good replacement of PHP, I'm not disdaining them.
Both are good for building public web sites (forums, e-commerce) but not for
the enterprise IMHO.  
>>Too late :)  Struts merged with Webworks.
This movement is logical since WW was an attempt to enhance Struts but you
can't expect Wicket to merge into SpringMVC for example.


Erik van Oosten wrote:
> 
> Please, no Ruby bashing here (or no bashing whatsoever).
> 
> The Ruby world has many more options besides Rails and Merb. Camping, 
> Sinatra, Ramaze, Nitro just to name a few. Its not such a ridiculous 
> long list as in the Java world, but hey, Ruby has not been popular for 
> that long.
>> Rails should be a good replacement of PHP, nothing more.
> I think you severely underestimate both. (When given to the right people 
> of course.)
> 
>> I hope Java web frameworks never got merged together.
>>   
> Too late :)  Struts merged with Webworks.
> 
> But I agree; choice is good.
> 
>     Erik.
> 
> 
> HHB wrote:
>> I hope Java web frameworks never got merged together.
>> Whenever my Rails dudes points toward how many Java has web frameworks
>> and
>> considering this as a bad thing, I smile.
>> I smile because they don't have an option, just Rails.
>> We (Java guys), have request/action frameworks, component-based
>> frameworks,
>> Java2JavaScript frameworks, Hybrid framework.
>> DHH is a jerk, but a smart one.
>> He tries so hard to convince every body on the planet that his Rails is
>> the
>> ultimate framework.
>> Rails should be a good replacement of PHP, nothing more.
>> The funniest thing when I hear Ruby/Rails guys talking about deploying
>> Rails
>> applications in the enterprise, What a good joke !!
>>   
> 
> -- 
> Erik van Oosten
> http://www.day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/
> 
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