True, but as I said, one does not necessarily exclude the other. In its
current state such a use of Jersey is best suited for low-interactivity,
data-driven applications - but the same could be said for other web
frameworks such as Stripes.

Jersey provides implicit and explicit views through JSP's out of the box:
http://blogs.sun.com/sandoz/entry/mvcj

That's the way I use it, people have plugged in their own template layers.
I'd be interested in a component model such as Wicket on top, which is why I
reacted to this thread. I think there's a broad understanding that the
Wicket model makes programmers happy.

/Casper

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Igor Vaynberg <igor.vaynb...@gmail.com>wrote:

> huh? wicket is trying to address a completely different problem space
> - which is orthogonal to what restlet and other rest-like services are
> trying to achieve.
>
> do any of these restlet-like services provide anything to help you
> generate the ui? do they have jstl tags? components? templating?
> nothing out of the box right? you have to glue that yourself on top of
> them.
>
> -igor
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Casper Bang <cas...@jbr.dk> wrote:
> >> restlet is for building services not uis, that quote makes absolutely no
> >> sense.
> >>
> >
> > While I agree the quote smells of FUD, one doesn't necessarily exclude
> the
> > other. The beauty of REST is its statelessness, addressability,
> > representation negotiation, caching and other ways it embraces HTTP
> rather
> > than run away from it (and use overloaded POST's with tiny RPC handlers
> for
> > everything).
> >
> > In Jersey it's also possible to serve (dynamic) HTML through a standard
> > templating engine, I'm doing this currently and achieving very high
> > scalability while keeping things simple. The caveat with this approach is
> > that you are stuck to the classic templating model and components don't
> > really exist apart from whatever jQuery/ExtJS stuff you wire up manually.
> >
> > So probably like the OP, I can't help but wonder about the possebility of
> > Wicket running on top as a model-view technology - or perhaps just a
> > programming model adopted after Wicket.
> >
> > /Casper
> >
>
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