so dont use databinder's entity form, only use its requestcycle infrastructure.

-igor

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Jeffrey Schneller
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I looked into the wicket London presentation/code and databinder.net and
> it all makes sense but it looks like then my wicket forms/components are
> tied directly to the database.  When I submit a form then the data is
> persisted but I don't want this.   I want to be able to call the data
> layer to retrieve data or to persist data and not care that a form is
> tied to it or not.  I also need to be able to get data to populate lists
> or tables on a page.
>
> I currently have my project set up like:
>
> Data objects - POJOs to hold data that comes from or will be persisted
> to the db
> Data Access Objects - objects to get and persistent data using hibernate
> using the data objects
> Business Logic - helper classes to access the data access objects if
> additional logic needs to be performed before persisting to the db.
> Wicket Pages - all my wicket pages.  The pages call the data access
> objects to retrieve data to display on pages and forms.  The pages also
> handle the form submits and call the Data Access Objects to persistent
> to the db.  In some cases I call the Business Logic layer to do the
> persistence.
>
> In the end I have data layer which I can re-use.  The business logic
> layer which I can change as needed.  Then the wicket pages which once
> they work I shouldn't need to touch if the logic changes or the data
> layer changes.  This is what I think of as a true 3-tier architecture.
>
> I also am not using maven.  I have eclipse running and added the jars to
> the project myself.  If I need to use maven then I will but it seems
> like adding more stuff to something that should be very simple.
>
>
> Should I be doing something different in terms of my architecture to
> implement wicket?  Everything is running fine for me except the lazy
> loading of data from hibernate.  Not sure how my session size is going
> to look doing it this way either.  Would prefer to have the smallest
> session size possible but this is a small app with little traffic for
> now so not that big of a deal.
>
> I am a wicket newbie and want to get this right as this is the first
> wicket project which will lead to a much larger higher traffic project
> that is currently planned to be developed using wicket.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Merrall [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 6:17 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Wicket + Hibernate without Spring for lazy loading
>
> Google for a wicket london weekend presentation and follow up blog on
> loading jpa entity managers on demand.  There have also been various
> posts
> relating to using the open session in view Hibernate filter.
>
> The JPA blog entry uses the requestcycle to prepare a thread local.  The
> first call to use it creates the entity manager and keeps it in the
> thread
> local.
>
> The request cycle end request and exception methods handle the cleanup
> and
> close.
>
> Very brief description but if you google for the topics above it is all
> very
> well explained.
>
> HTH
>
> Adrian
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Petr Fejfar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Jeffrey Schneller
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > I really don't want to bloat my code to implement Spring but if it
> is the
>> only way to do it then I will.
>>
>> When I've started learning of Wicket few month ago, my position was
>> the similiar: I'd like to avoid stuff like Maven, Spring etc... I
>> found out Databinder as well and tried it. But I was not able to make
>> it running with Hibernate, just with HSQLDB.
>>
>> So we've decided to continue with Spring, Maven... We've increased our
>> overhead little bit, but once we define beans, we do not care about
>> them any more. There was only one pitfall: manually invoking injection
>> of non-visual components. After few month I must say that Spring seems
>> to be the least problematic part of our projects.
>>
>>
>> Petr
>>
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