Please correct me if I'm wrong, but, once the component's validators have
been passed, and when executing, for instance a FormValidator, you can get
the converted input of the Checkbox. Then choose to use or not the input of
the conditional field. Of course that prevents you from using setRequired on
that field, because it would be executed as a Component Validator before the
Form one.

Hope that helps,
Xavier

2010/6/16 Iain Reddick <iain.redd...@beatsystems.com>

> I looked at this again today and realised that my examples are basically
> broken (also typos in the last one :) ).
>
> Obviously, you can't use the converted input of a FormComponent before
> validation has happened. This means that using the CheckBox converted input
> to determine whether another form component is "used" in the submission is
> wrong - it will only return the value it held before the submit. You would
> actually have to look at the raw input.
>
> So I'm back at square one with this again.
>
> I suppose my question is "Is component visibility the only means of
> determining whether a form component should be considered in the form submit
> mechanism?".
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Iain Reddick" <iain.redd...@beatsystems.com>
> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 June, 2010 8:35:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Show/hide form components best practice
>
> Looking at the wicket source regarding this, I don't think it's possible
> to get the desired behaviour.
>
> It looks like a new hook is needed in FormComponent.validate() that is
> called before any of the other logic.
>
> Something like FormComponent.isUsed(). If this returns false, just exit
> the validate() methods.
>
> Default FormComponent implementation would return true for this method,
> but it can be overriden to provide the desired behaviour.
>
> As I understand the submit/validate/bind sequence, this would mean that
> the form component's raw input is updated (which makes sense), but
> validation/model object doesn't happen.
>
> Is this feasible, and would it impact elsewhere?
>
>
> Here's an update of my previous example showing how it would be used:
>
> private class TestForm extends Form {
>
> private String always;
> private boolean useOptional = false;
> private String optional;
>
> public TestForm(String id) {
> super(id);
>
> add( new TextField("always", new PropertyModel(this,
> "always")).setRequired(true) );
> final CheckBox useOptionalCheck = new CheckBox( "useOptional", new
> PropertyModel(this, "useOptional") );
> add( useOptionalCheck );
> add( new TextField("optional", new PropertyModel(this, "optional")) {
> @Override public boolean isUsed() {
> return ((Boolean)useOptionalCheck.getConvertedInput()).booleanValue();
> }
>
> @Override
> public boolean isRequired() {
> isUsed(); }
> }.add(MinimumLengthValidator.minimumLength(3)) );
> }
>
> }
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Xavier López" <xavil...@gmail.com>
> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June, 2010 2:56:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Show/hide form components best practice
>
> I'm with you on this one, this code feels like doing something that it
> shouldn't, looks kind of bloated for such a simple and common
> requirement. Maybe we need some stuffing of nice, pre-canned
> FormValidators ? :)
>
> The problem with wicket's validators, as I see it, is that they are at a
> Component level. They do their job based on that component's
> input/state, only. In fact, they are called in Form's
> validateComponents() one by one in
> a traversal. If another component's input or state is required to
> perform the validation, i'd do it inside a FormValidator. That copes
> with your
> requirement of "ignore the input for this component completely",
> although I
> don't know how would that be achieved.
>
> Of course, in all those comments, I assume you can not rely on
> javascript nor ajax to perform those validations, in which case the
> visibility approach
> simply couldn't work.
>
> Cheers,
> Xavier
>
> 2010/6/3 Iain Reddick <iain.redd...@beatsystems.com>
>
> > The problem with this approach is that you throw away all the nice,
> > re-usable pre-canned validators that wicket has, and that it seems
> > very "wrong".
> >
> > I'd actually push the behaviour I would like to see even further - in
> > the example I gave, I don't even want the optional field to update
> > it's model
> > when the check box isn't selected.
> >
> > Effectively, I want to be able to specify logic which says "ignore the
> > input for this component completely". Currently, the only way to do
> > this is
> > by using component visibility (unless I'm completely wrong on this).
> >
> > Xavier López wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Iain,
> >>
> >> I would do it like this, with a FormValidator. I moved the minimum
> >> length validation also to the formValidator, because doing it with a
> >> MinimumLenghtValidator would trigger it before the formValidator
> >> executes, and may raise errors when the input is not valid (i.e. not
> >> mandatory) :
> >>
> >> private class TestForm extends Form {
> >>
> >> IModel modelAlways;
> >> IModel modelCheckOptional;
> >> IModel modelOptional;
> >>
> >>  public TestForm(String id) {
> >>   super(id);
> >>
> >>   modelAlways = new Model("");
> >>   modelCheckOptional = Boolean.FALSE;
> >>   modelOptional = new Model("");
> >>   final TextField alwaysTextfield = new TextField("always",
> >>   modelAlways); alwaysTextField.setRequired(true);
> >>   add(alwaysTextField); final CheckBox useOptionalCheck = new
> >>   CheckBox( "useOptional",
> >> modelCheckOptional);
> >>   add( useOptionalCheck );
> >>   final TextField optionalTextField = new TextField("optional",
> >> modelOptional);
> >>   add(optionalTextField);
> >>
> >>   add(new IFormValidator(){
> >>      protected FormComponent getDependentFormComponents(){ return
> >>      null; }
> >>      public boolean validate(Form f){
> >>          if
> >>          (Boolean.TRUE.equals(useOptionalCheck.getConvertedInput()){
> >>                String optionalValue =
> >> optionalTextField.getConvertedInput();
> >>                if (Strings.isEmpty(optionalValue ){
> >>                       error ("field optional is required");
> >>                } else if (optionalValue.length < 3){
> >>                       error ("optional value's length must be at
> >>                       least 3);
> >>                }
> >>          }.
> >> } });
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Xavier
> >>
> >> 2010/6/2 Iain Reddick <iain.redd...@beatsystems.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Here's some example code (wicket 1.3.x):
> >>>
> >>> Java:
> >>>
> >>> private class TestForm extends Form {
> >>>
> >>>  private String always;
> >>>  private boolean useOptional = false;
> >>>  private String optional;
> >>>
> >>>  public TestForm(String id) {
> >>>   super(id);
> >>>
> >>>   add( new TextField("always", new PropertyModel(this,
> >>> "always")).setRequired(true) );
> >>>   final CheckBox useOptionalCheck = new CheckBox( "useOptional", new
> >>> PropertyModel(this, "useOptional") );
> >>>   add( useOptionalCheck );
> >>>   add( new TextField("optional", new PropertyModel(this,
> >>>   "optional")) {
> >>>     @Override public boolean isRequired() {
> >>>       return
> >>> ((Boolean)useOptionalCheck.getConvertedInput()).booleanValue();
> >>>     }
> >>>   }.add(MinimumLengthValidator.minimumLength(3)) );
> >>>  }
> >>>
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> Markup:
> >>>
> >>> <form wicket:id="testForm">
> >>>  <input wicket:id="always" type="text" />
> >>>  <input wicket:id="useOptional" type="checkbox" />
> >>>  <input wicket:id="optional" type="text" />
> >>>  <input type="submit" />
> >>> </form>
> >>>
> >>> How can I express that I want the optional text field to only be
> >>> used when
> >>> the checkbox is selected?
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Igor Vaynberg" <igor.vaynb...@gmail.com>
> >>> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 June, 2010 4:00:57 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Show/hide form components best practice
> >>>
> >>> if the form contains all the state then the answer is simple: write
> >>> a bit of javascript that does it for you.
> >>>
> >>> -igor
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Iain Reddick
> >>> <iain.redd...@beatsystems.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> That's just a server round-trip on client-side state changem, which
> >>>> is basically (1) in my initial list.
> >>>>
> >>>> Basically, this type of form behaviour is very common and the
> >>>> question of how to implement it with Wicket has been raised by
> >>>> every developer
> >>>> I know
> >>>> who has worked with the framework.
> >>>>
> >>>> I know that Wicket generally works best when you round-trip
> >>>> client-side state changes to the server, but I think that in this
> >>>> situation it is silly,
> >>>> as the submitted form contains all the required state.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeremy Thomerson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> return true from wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications and put your
> >>>>> visibility changing code in onSelectionChanged
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> http://wicket.apache.org/docs/1.4/org/apache/wicket/markup/html/form/CheckGroup.html#wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications()<http://wicket.apache.org/docs/1.4/org/apache/wicket/markup/html/form/CheckGroup.html#wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications%28%29>
> <
> http://wicket.apache.org/docs/1.4/org/apache/wicket/markup/html/form/CheckGroup.html#wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications%28%29
> >
> >>> <
> >>>
> http://wicket.apache.org/docs/1.4/org/apache/wicket/markup/html/form/CheckGroup.html#wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications%28%29
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> http://wicket.apache.org/docs/1.4/org/apache/wicket/markup/html/form/CheckGroup.html#wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications()<http://wicket.apache.org/docs/1.4/org/apache/wicket/markup/html/form/CheckGroup.html#wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications%28%29>
> <
> http://wicket.apache.org/docs/1.4/org/apache/wicket/markup/html/form/CheckGroup.html#wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications%28%29
> >
> >>> <
> >>>
> http://wicket.apache.org/docs/1.4/org/apache/wicket/markup/html/form/CheckGroup.html#wantOnSelectionChangedNotifications%28%29
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Iain Reddick
> >>>>> <iain.redd...@beatsystems.com>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Say I have a form with a check box that, when checked, shows some
> >>>>>> other field (i.e. it controls the visibility of other form
> >>>>>> components).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is the best approach to handling this?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From what I understand, you have 3 options:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. Add ajax behaviour to the check box (re-render relevant
> >>>>>> components). 2. Add javascript from the Java code (e.g. add some
> >>>>>> kind of show/hide
> >>>>>> behaviour). 3. Add javascript directly to the HTML.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What are peoples experiences of the 3 methods, and which is best?
> >>>>>>
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