I have to laugh because I also agree its kind of crazy...

Yes the original value must be hashed by the client.  The reasoning being 
that SSL could be broken and expose the data.  I don't necessarily agree 
but thats how the original system was written.




James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> 
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And, you don't want to convert it before you store it in the db?  It must 
be
converted at the browser level?  Is there any more information you can 
give
us that would make this requirement not sound so crazy? :)

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:15 PM, <mzem...@osc.state.ny.us> wrote:

> Correct
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> James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
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> So, you never need to get the original values out of the database?
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> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:10 PM, <mzem...@osc.state.ny.us> wrote:
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> > An already existing system is being rewritten and the db currently
> stores
> > hashed values.  I don't disagree there are better ways to reach the 
end
> > goal, but this is the spec I am working with.
> >
> >
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> > James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
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> > And, what does that buy you?  Why do you want to submit one-way hashed
> > values?
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:37 PM, <mzem...@osc.state.ny.us> wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, the value will be hashed, one-way...anyone have any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
> > > Sent by: jcar...@carmanconsulting.com
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> > > Then it's not "encryption".  Encrypted data should be readable to
> those
> > > who
> > > have the "key."
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:29 PM, <mzem...@osc.state.ny.us> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the reply, that would work however per our business 
rules
> > the
> > > > encryption must be one-way and will not be decrypted...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Igor Vaynberg <igor.vaynb...@gmail.com>
> > > > 08/02/2010 03:23 PM
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> > > > override getinputasarray() on the field and decrypt it there, that
> way
> > > > wicket sees the decrypted value
> > > >
> > > > -igor
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:14 PM,  <mzem...@osc.state.ny.us> wrote:
> > > > > I totally agree, seems like double-duty that accomplishes very
> > little,
> > > > and
> > > > > actually adds overhead.  But this is another debate and the
> feature
> > > has
> > > > > been requested and must be implemented as I described...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > > "Craig McIlwee" <craig.mcil...@openroadsconsulting.com>
> > > > > 08/02/2010 03:06 PM
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> > > > > Why not use a password field to keep the value hidden and SSL to
> > make
> > > > sure
> > > > > there are no man in the middle attacks.  Seems like you are 
making
> > it
> > > > too
> > > > > hard?
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: mzem...@osc.state.ny.us
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> > > > > Sent: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:00:55 -0400
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> > > > >> Problem: Encrypt sensitive form fields (ie ssn) on client
> > > (javascript)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Solution:  Create behavior which fires javascript to hash field
> > value
> > > > > and
> > > > >> replace original value (###-##-####)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This sounds simple enough, but since the length of the hashed
> > string
> > > > > will
> > > > >> be considerably longer than the original string, validations on
> > this
> > > > > field
> > > > >> (ssn must be nine digits) will fail.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've considered placing the hashed value into a hidden field, 
but
> > > then
> > > > > the
> > > > >> unencrypted value will be posted and the hashing accomplishes
> > > nothing.
> > > > > If
> > > > >> I clear out the original value I lose server-side validations.
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