Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for the quick reply. Is the reason I'm seeing the wicket:id
in my output then that I'm working in development mode? If so,
I'd say that was a nice design decision (not surprising from what
else I've seen in Wicket).

Cheers,

Ichiro


On 9/16/10, Jeremy Thomerson <jer...@wickettraining.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Ichiro Furusato
> <ichiro.furus...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm a new Wicket user and am unclear about a couple of things regarding
>> what type of markup Wicket delivers to clients. Because some of the
>> clients
>> I work with have government guidelines restricting what document types
>> are permitted (typically XHTML 1.0 Strict or Transitional), I'm concerned
>> I might not be able to use Wicket for those projects.
>>
>> What I'll call "the Wicket XHTML DTD" is referenced as the XML namespace
>> URI for wicket documents. As (from what I've seen) there is no stated
>> DOCTYPE declaration, Wicket pages are expressed as well-formed XML only,
>> even though they could likely validate according to the Wicket XHTML DTD.
>> Unfortunately, for my applications I have a requirement to declare and be
>> valid according to a W3C XHTML 1.0 DTD.
>>
>> It would seem from the unmodified comments found at the top of the Wicket
>> XHTML DTD that the schema used at first glance is XHTML 1.0 Strict, e.g.:
>>
>>   This DTD module is identified by the PUBLIC and SYSTEM identifiers:
>>
>>     PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
>>     SYSTEM "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";
>>
>> but on further investigation there have been modifications to the schema:
>> the addition of some "wicket:" prefixed attributes to %coreattrs;.
>>
>> It's not industry practice to do that kind of thing, i.e., the header
>> comments should identify the schema being expressed. If a DTD is modified
>> the comments should be modified to relabel the schema. Any reference to
>> the FPI (formal public identifier) for XHTML 1.0 would likewise be
>> inappropriate since the Wicket schema has modified it. Even if the changes
>> occur in a new XML namespace the schema is no longer XHTML 1.0 Strict and
>> will not validate according to that DTD.
>>
>> There are a few questions/comments that come from the above:
>>
>>   1. Are the wicket attributes required for Wicket-based processing?
>>      Would removing them break existing functionality?
>>
>>   2. If the answer to #1 is no, could the web pages be run through a
>>      simple XSLT transform to remove the non-XHTML attributes?
>>
>>   3. If the answer to #2 is yes, I'm willing to supply the XSLT
>>      stylesheet, but I'm not on the developer team and couldn't based
>>      on my current workload volunteer, so I wouldn't be able to supply
>>      the code supporting that feature.
>>
>>   4. I am familiar with the XHTML modular DTDs and would be willing to
>>      supply an XHTML 1.0 DTD based on a new Wicket module, then
>>      "flattened" (converted into one file) based on some tools I've
>> written.
>>      This would be a replacement for the existing Wicket XHTML DTD and
>>      be appropriately named, e.g.,
>>
>>        -//Apache.org//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict for Wicket 1.4//EN
>>
>>      This DTD could of course be used to validate Wicket-produced web
>>      pages, but wouldn't be needed if the wicket: attributes were
>>      stripped from generated web pages. Ideally, Wicket would produce
>>      valid XHTML 1.0 Strict. I don't know if this is possible.
>>
>> Some clarification on this would be most appreciated,
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ichiro
>>
>> PS. on the whole I'm liking what I see with Wicket, esp. compared to
>> Spring's increasingly complex, arcane and fragile approach to what
>> should not be rocket science.
>>
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> Wicket only generates whatever HTML you want it to generate.  The only
> wicket tag (or actually, attribute) you are required to use is "wicket:id",
> which will automatically be removed from your HTML in deployment mode.  So,
> use strict XHTML in your *.html files and strict XHTML is what will be
> rendered.
>
> --
> Jeremy Thomerson
> http://www.wickettraining.com
>

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