On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Mike Pence <mike.pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Forgive my newbie questions, but what is Fodel? > https://github.com/wicketstuff/core/blob/master/jdk-1.6-parent/scala-extensions-parent/wicket-scala/src/main/scala/org/wicketstuff/scala/Fodel.scala?source=cc > > Is JBoss the most promising app server to build on? I have always felt like > any sufficiently advanced Rails app is indistinguishable from an ad-hoc > reinvention of a poorly spec'ed Java app server... > I'd prefer Jetty/Tomcat than Java EE application server. > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Peter Henderson < > peter.hender...@starjar.com> wrote: > > > I've found the combination of Wicket + Scala to be very productive. > > > > Just make sure you use Fodel from Wicketstuff > > > > > > When things get tricky, simply reduce the problem down to a java quick > > start and proceed as usual. > > I find that 99% of the time making a quick start solves the problem, > when I > > realize what I'm doing wrong. > > > > Peter. > > > > > > > > On 26 June 2013 17:28, Michael Pence <mike.pe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Scala is even more expressive and powerful than Ruby, so Scala + Wicket > > is > > > definitely my dream stack. I am just nervous about not having a big > peer > > > support community when things get tricky. > > > > > > On Jun 25, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Colin Rogers < > > > colin.rog...@objectconsulting.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > > Java is still pretty verbose, for all 'recent' improvements - I don't > > > think that will really ever change, but then I don't see that as an > > issue. > > > My personal style of coding is to write simple, obvious, testable, but > > > ultimately verbose, code. Code that anyone can read, and understand > what > > > and why I'm attempting something - with the absolute minimum of > comments. > > > But that's just me! :) > > > > > > > > I've never understood writing one line of code, that takes five lines > > of > > > comments to fully explain what and why it's attempting, when you could > > > write 3 lines of code with no comments - and would be significantly > > easier > > > to modify or extend later. > > > > > > > > When I was younger, and monitors smaller and lines constrained, I too > > > loved ramming as much functionality into the smallest of visual spaces > in > > > code, but now I love tons of white space and simple, clean code. > > > > > > > > It's all about scroll wheels and big monitors! :) > > > > > > > > ... and Wicket and the super-fast modern JVMs... and t's still > quicker > > > and easier and ultimately less verbose to do something in Wicket/Java, > > than > > > pretty much any other Web framework, IMHO - regardless of Java as a > > > language. > > > > > > > > You could try Scala with Wicket, or Groovy with Wicket - both are > > native > > > JVM languages - would these give you greater benefits to your style? > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Col. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mike Pence [mailto:mike.pe...@gmail.com] > > > > Sent: 26 June 2013 06:48 > > > > To: users@wicket.apache.org > > > > Subject: Re: A Wicket in Ruby > > > > > > > > That is a good question that I have been mulling over these last few > > > says. > > > > I think that I need to suck it up and just re-familiarize with Java > -- > > > it is less verbose, with annotations and closures now, right? -- for > all > > of > > > the benefits that the JVM with Wicket will bring me. I got a bit > spoiled > > by > > > years of Ruby, but man, do you pay for that lack of compile-time > checking > > > and type safety over and over again -- especially with regard to > > > performance and endlessly climbing stack traces over typos. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Colin Rogers < > > > colin.rog...@objectconsulting.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Mike, > > > >> > > > >> I hate to be the old cynic and doomsayer, but generally I find that > > > >> whenever a two programming technologies are 'crossed' over, with the > > > >> idea that you'll get the advantages of both - the exact opposite > > > >> occurs and actually you end up with a technology that only has the > > > >> disadvantages of both and the advantages of neither. > > > >> > > > >> After all, Wicket in Java works really well... how would ruby > improve > > > >> it over Java? Or Scala in the JVM? Or Groovy on the JVM? > > > >> > > > >> Like I said - sorry - I don't wish to negative, but it seems like a > > > >> thankless task awaits you! :) > > > >> > > > >> Cheers, > > > >> Col. > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Mike Pence [mailto:mike.pe...@gmail.com] > > > >> Sent: 22 June 2013 02:21 > > > >> To: users@wicket.apache.org > > > >> Subject: A Wicket in Ruby > > > >> > > > >> So I have this crazy idea to try to write some subset of Wicket > using > > > >> CRuby and the variety of technologies it employs (EventMachine, > etc.) > > > >> > > > >> Hard to know where to start though, or how best to form a mental > model > > > >> of what Wicket does vs. doing a straight class-to-class conversion. > > > >> Maybe there is a test suite in the wicket source I should consider. > Of > > > >> course, there is nothing like stepping through the code to > understand > > > >> the lifecyle of a wicket request (and to see how it persists session > > > data, especially). > > > >> > > > >> Am I crazy? > > > >> EMAIL DISCLAIMER This email message and its attachments are > > > >> confidential and may also contain copyright or privileged material. > If > > > >> you are not the intended recipient, you may not forward the email or > > > >> disclose or use the information contained in it. 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