MartinG mentioned ComponentRenderer so if you know your pages, you could do
that.

If you need help with ComponentRenderer, please first proceed with it and
maybe a more specific question might help once you have gotten started.

**
Martin

ke 4. tammik. 2023 klo 2.23 Anna Eileen Eileen ([email protected])
kirjoitti:

> Dear Martin
>
> I don’t know how to do “pre-touch”, do you have any example?
>
> From: Martin Terra <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 11:37 PM
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Wicket on low end hardware
> Just a note, you don't need to make the startup "pre-touching" process a
> blocking one so that if a user were to interact with the app, they could do
> so while startup pretouch is doing its thing.
>
> And you could profile whether you want to do the pre-touch in single thread
> or multi-thraded.
>
> **
> Martin
>
> ti 3. tammik. 2023 klo 16.58 [email protected] kirjoitti:
>
> > Thanks everyone. I did not expect the amount of feedback that I got. It
> > is much appreciated.
> >
> > I spent most of my day profiling with VisualVM and it strengthened by
> > beliefs that my problems do not appear to be related to anything but
> > Wicket combined with our dated hardware. Please do not consider this a
> > criticism. I understand that not a lot of people run servlet containers
> > on this kind of hardware nowadays.
> >
> > My database queries all run quickly and my domain classes are hardly
> > even touched when the system starts. Our rather simple login page -
> > which is stateless and does not query the database when the form is
> > empty - takes 5-15 seconds to load on the first try. Subsequent requests
> > take about 40-120ms (browser caching disabled). Once logged in, the
> > other pages do not take as long, but they do feel sluggish until they
> > have been requested once.
> >
> > I tried to only load the quickstart example as Martijn suggested. It
> > starts more quickly than our own application but all things considered,
> > its performance did not impress me and that application really is super
> > simple. The first page load of the quickstart took about 2 seconds,
> > after that it normalized to about 30ms per request.
> >
> > When all pages have been loaded once, things are absolutely fine. So I
> > am considering Martin's approach of preloading components. That still
> > leaves me with the considerable startup time but we will learn to live
> > with that. Or we might switch from Tomcat to Jetty eventually.
> >
> > If anyone thinks I might be leaving some stuff on the table, I would be
> > open to hire someone to do some consulting work on this. Please get in
> > touch with me if you are interested.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Stan
> >
> >
> > Martin Terra schreef op 2023-01-02 04:29:
> >
> > > Anything in wicket can be preloaded,  but as premature optimization is
> > > evil, you should profile your application.
> > >
> > > If you do not have debug access to a real/simulated environment then
> > > the
> > > least you can do is make your own thread logger to log what the threads
> > > are
> > > doing.
> > >
> > > **
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > ma 2. tammik. 2023 klo 3.19 Anna Eileen ([email protected])
> > > kirjoitti:
> > >
> > >> Hello
> > >>
> > >> Would you please describe your web application components? Database ?
> > >> What services ran on the device?
> > >>
> > >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > >> Date: Monday, January 2, 2023 at 5:23 AM
> > >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > >> Subject: Wicket on low end hardware
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> My use case for Wicket is a quite unconventional one. I use it as the
> > >> framework for the web interface of an appliance that runs on low end
> > >> hardware. The appliance doesn't have gigabytes of memory to waste or
> > >> tens of CPU cores. It's more like Celeron powered hardware with maybe
> > >> one or two gigabytes of RAM.
> > >>
> > >> I general this all works and customers are happy once the device is
> > >> running. But I find that deployment is quite slow, and so are the
> > >> first
> > >> couple of page loads of the day. Just to be clear: I cannot really
> > >> claim
> > >> that my performance problems are all Wicket related. They may be, but
> > >> they probably also are down to other underlying issues. A badly
> > >> optimized database, or a badly configured servlet container come to
> > >> mind...
> > >>
> > >> However, I was wondering if anyone has experience in using Wicket on
> > >> low
> > >> end hardware. I would be very interested in how to optimize for this.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Stan
> >
>

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