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>Document from Utah DOT from last summer...
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>http://www.dot.state.ut.us/esd/otheresdpages/cecu/08%2D23%2D00.htm
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>UDOT/CECU (Consultant Engineers Council of Utah) LIAISON COMMITTEE MEETING
>MINUTES for August 23, 2000
>Place: UDOT 4th Floor Conference Room
>Date: August 23, 2000
>Time: 9:00AM
>Prepared By: Lee Arnold
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>Item 7
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>Tom also led discussion on the Local Government cooperative agreements where
>the local agencies prefer using English Units. UDOT no longer supports
>anything but metric and that means the agencies and their consultants are
>responsible for all costs associated with making the conversion of specs,
>standard drawings, V-drawings, design standards, etc. They are also
>responsible for all mistakes, omissions and incorrect standards in the bid
>package. Tom handed out an insert to be included in cooperative agreements
>and asked for feedback before the end of the month.
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>Randy asked, "Should we be going back to English Units?" This generated a
>lot of discussion. Tom said of the 40 DOT's that converted to metric, only
>17 remain and half of those will go back to English soon. There is a high
>degree of risk where conversion of standards is required or when double
>dimensioning is required when dealing with the likes of Union Pacific
>Railroad. Randy stated that a lot of state money was spent in meeting the
>Federal mandate to convert to metric and it would cost a lot to go back. The
>state would not have any interest in going back unless the Feds would agree
>that it would be for the long term. They definitely would not want to go
>back to English if there was any chance the Feds come back in two years and
>mandate metric again. Randy pointed out its a lot cheaper for the local
>agencies to do those designs using metric since the support is there.

Joseph B. Reid
17 Glebe Road West
Toronto    M5P 1C8                       Tel. 416 486-6071

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