I would not propose a decimal series of paper formats as there is none and
it would be impractical in this specific case. It is a fact that A paper
sizes divide by progressive halving. I support the Q and A sizes.
As for the Q: there is no proposal for any other non-decimal subdivion at
all. Under the proposal those who need finer resolutions can go to 0.1 or
any other decimal part of a  millimeter. See Markus Kuhn's website.
And again, if I see the trash the Q is to replace, then this infraction of
SI rules in a very specific field is a small price to pay.
However, CGPM should not officially sanction the Q, there it should always
remain '0.25 mm'.
A possiblility is, stop calling it a Q, refer to a 0.25 mm resolution, that
will
eliminate a unit or prefix name. It is possible that the typographic
industry really
needs this 0.25 mm resolution for the bulk of printing.

Han


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph B. Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, 2002-02-06 20:04
Subject: [USMA:17989] Re: Query about measurement!!


> Han Maenen's USMA 17974 surprises me.  It reminds me of Napoleon's
"customary metric system" of 1812 which divided the metre in binary
fractions.

> >Even if the kyu or Q is a non-decimal part of the mm, it will replace
lots and lots of ridiculous jetsam and flotsam. The 0.25 mm is still an
acceptable decimal fraction. We should NOT built a system of  typographical
units on the Q; for everything else the millimeter should be enough.
> >I am 100% in favour af adopting the Q or kyu, the sooner the better and I
am also convinced that those who conceived it wanted to get rid of old and
US
printing units. Having a millimeter divided by 4 is a very small price to
pay for a vast improvement. If they had gone to 1/8 then I would have said
no as well.
> >If the Q is ifp thinking, then the A-paper sizes are in fact the same as
they are a binary series.
>
>
> What decimal series of paper sizes would Han propose?
>
> I agree with Ma Be's message in USMA 17953:
>
> >Carter, Baron wrote:
> >kyu: a metric unit of distance used in typography and graphic design. The
> >kyu,
> >originally written Q, is equal to exactly 0.25 millimeter...
> >
> >The thing that baffles me the most about this is why in the world didn't
> >they go with the millimeter (or maybe even the micrometer)???  "Ifp"
> >thinking at work here?  Good grief...  :-(
>
>
> Joseph B.Reid
> 17 Glebe Road West
> Toronto  M5P 1C8             TEL. 416-486-6071
>
>
>


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