2002-06-03

Here is an interesting statement from the article:

Governments have been embracing open-source software as a way to cut costs
and sometimes also to break free of a U.S.-dominated software market.
Open-source software such as Linux may be freely modified and redistributed
without the legal and financial constraints of proprietary software from
Microsoft, Oracle and others.

It would be nice if someone could modify Application software to metric
friendly versions and distribute it in metric countries as a better
alternative to non-metric friendly FFU based software.

Maybe this is the opportunity where metric can overtake FFU.  I hope so!

John



----- Original Message -----
From: "M R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, 2002-06-03 21:14
Subject: [USMA:20333] Fwd: Re: Fwd: First Britain, now Cuba


> As I wrote, I dont have the URL,  but I will send it
> if I find any.
>
> By the way, a big news for Linux & true freedom
>   supporters.
> German government has signed a deal to move their
> computers from Microsoft to Linux and it is signed
> with IBM and Suse Linux (a German company).
>
> I hope it will give some boost to SI, if they set
> Metric as the only option.
> http://netscape.com.com/2100-1104-931115.html?type=pt
>
> Madan
>
> --- kilopascal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [USMA:20331] Re: Fwd: First Britain, now
> > Cuba
> > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 22:13:26 -0400
> > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > 2002-06-02
> >
> > This is no attempt to support Cuba or its present
> > government.  It was meant
> > to show examples of the increasing growth of the
> > Euro.
> >
> > BTW, where did that 80 % figure you provided come
> > from?  And where did you
> > hear the mint was going to change the colour of US
> > money?  Are there
> > websites for this info?
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "M R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, 2002-06-02 21:58
> > Subject: [USMA:20330] Fwd: First Britain, now Cuba
> >
> >
> > > Hello John
> > >
> > > Please dont support Cuba in the name of metric.
> > > Castro has ruined the country in the name of
> > > socialism, revolution and all such nonsense.
> > >
> > > As for the Euro support,  China was the 1st
> > country
> > > to convert some of their foreign exchange to Euro.
> > > Out of their 200 G$ reserve, they
> > > purchased 500 million euros.  I read this long
> > time
> > > back and I dont have the URL.
> > >
> > > Madan
> > >
> > >
> > > --- kilopascal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "U.S. Metric Association"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: [USMA:20325] First Britain, now Cuba
> > > > Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 11:55:18 -0400
> > > > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > Cuba Resort Shifts to Euro
> > > > By REUTERS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ARADERO, Cuba, June 1 (Reuters) - Cuba, thumbing
> > its
> > > > nose at the United
> > > > States, officially put the euro into circulation
> > at
> > > > its top holiday resort
> > > > here today. Receipts are printed in dollars and
> > > > euros, saving European
> > > > tourists the trouble of changing their currency
> > for
> > > > dollars.
> > > >
> > > > Cuba, the first Latin American nation where the
> > euro
> > > > is widely accepted,
> > > > plans to extend the use of the euro to all
> > resorts
> > > > by next year.
> > > >
> > > > Washington has imposed a trade embargo on Cuba
> > for
> > > > four decades and bans
> > > > Americans from spending dollars on the island.
> > Cuba
> > > > legalised possession of
> > > > dollars in 1993.
> > > >
> > > > Also, read this:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/business/business-markets-dollar-investments.
> > > > html
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "M R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "U.S. Metric Association"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, 2002-06-02 09:52
> > > > Subject: [USMA:20321] Fwd: Re: Fwd: 'Euro-creep'
> > > > starts slowly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Sorry John
> > > > >
> > > > > You assume that Americans will sit and watch
> > the
> > > > > Euro overtaking US $.
> > > > > No - for the following reasons
> > > > > 1. Already the Federal Reserve is considering
> > > > > introducing color bills both to avoid
> > > > counterfeiting
> > > > > and making it easy to distinguish. So it will
> > be
> > > > > called 'greenback' no more.
> > > > > 2. At later stage they may change the size of
> > the
> > > > > bills to make it even more easier to
> > distinguish.
> > > > > 3. If needed they may even replace the faces
> > of
> > > > > political leaders (like Washington, Lincoln,
> > etc)
> > > > > with tourist attractions like
> > > > > Capitol Hill, Statue of Liberty, Niagara, etc.
> > > > > Can the Europeans match.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the Euro's strength really hurts US
> > economy,
> > > > then
> > > > > they will go for the final act
> > > > >  'Replace FFU with SI' - hope you like this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Madan
> > > > >
> > > > > --- kilopascal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: "U.S. Metric Association"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Subject: [USMA:20317] Re: Fwd: 'Euro-creep'
> > > > starts
> > > > > > slowly
> > > > > > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 14:16:04 -0400
> > > > > > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2002-06-01
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The increase of the Euro at the expense of
> > the
> > > > > > Dollar will hurt the American
> > > > > > economy.  That is a fact!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The US economy is heavily driven and
> > dependant
> > > > on
> > > > > > credit and debt.
> > > > > > Americans are encouraged to spend
> > frivolously,
> > > > even
> > > > > > if they don't have the
> > > > > > money to support such buying habits.  The
> > > > difference
> > > > > > is made up in buying on
> > > > > > credit.  It is not uncommon for the typical
> > US
> > > > > > consumer to be tens of
> > > > > > thousands of dollars in debt.  And it is not
> > > > > > uncommon for said consumer to
> > > > > > pay little on that debt even as interest
> > charges
> > > > are
> > > > > > applied.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In most countries, such a state could not
> > exist
> > > > > > without causing a total
> > > > > > financial collapse, as was witnessed
> > recently in
> > > > > > Argentina.  But, America is
> > > > > > able to support its high debt by the
> > investment
> > > > and
> > > > > > confidence the world
> > > > > > holds for the dollar.  The use of the dollar
> > is
> > > > what
> > > > > > pays for America's
> > > > > > debt.  It keeps US bankruptcy laws weak,
> > > > allowing
> > > > > > for citizens to default on
> > > > > > their debts without having the effect of
> > causing
> > > > the
> > > > > > banking system to
> > > > > > collapse.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The US must take in 1.3 G$/day to support
> > the
> > > > debt
> > > > > > of the US economy.
> > > > > > Without that income, the debt must be
> > supported
> > > > from
> > > > > > other means.  One of
> > > > > > those means would be to amend the bankruptcy
> > > > laws
> > > > > > making payback of debt by
> > > > > > consumers and business a must.  No more
> > excusing
> > > > of
> > > > > > bad debt.  Consumers and
> > > > > > businesses that must use their limited
> > incomes
> > > > to
> > > > > > pay off debt, will not be
> > > > > > spending money on goods and services that
> > > > stimulate
> > > > > > the economy.  Thus a
> > > > > > further decline of the economy will result
> > and
> > > > an
> > > > > > increase in poverty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is why the Canadian dollar and other
> > > > currencies
> > > > > > are weak.  There is
> > > > > > nothing fundamentally wrong with their
> > > > economies.
> > > > > > The US government is just
> > > > > > as wasteful of money as any other government
> > is.
> > > > > > Buy, Canadians and others
> > > > > > have no confidence in their own currency.
> > That
> > > > lack
> > > > > > of confidence
> > > > > > translates into a weak currency.  If
> > Canadians
> > > > > > supported their own currency
> > > > > > in both Canada and abroad, its value would
> > > > increase.
> > > > > >  But, they don't.  They
> > > > > > belittle it.  If only they knew that by
> > doing
> > > > so,
> > > > > > they are only hurting them
> > > > > > selves.  If Canada seems to be stable, it is
> > due
> > > > to
> > > > > > the large reserves of US
> > > > > > dollars in their banks and businesses.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, when I say the increase in the value of
> > the
> > > > Euro
> > > > > > and the increased
> > > > > > confidence in the Euro will hurt the US
> > economy,
> > > > > > this is what I meant.  And
> > > > > > it should be that way.  Why should Americans
> > > > have a
> > > > > > free lunch and nobody
> > > > > > else can?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > American economists are frightened of the
> > Euro.
> > > > > > They know the party is
> > > > > > over.  What they don't know is how long they
> > > > will
> > > > > > have to endure a weak
> > > > > > economy or what it will do to America's
> > desire
> > > > to
> > > > > > control the global
> > > > > > economy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, now do you understand where I am coming
> > > > from?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Louis JOURDAN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "U.S. Metric
> > > > Association"
> > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, 2002-06-01 01:16
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [USMA:20292] Re: Fwd:
> > 'Euro-creep'
> > > > > > starts slowly
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 20:02 -0400 02/05/31, kilopascal wrote:
> > > > > > > >2002-05-31
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >After carefully thinking about your
> > > > conclusion,
> > > > > > I'm going to disagree.
> > > > > > You
> > > > > > > >are assuming that the dollar will remain
> > at
> > > > 80 %
> > > > > > and the Euro will only
> > > > > > > >replace the present usage for the Mark,
> > the
> > > > Franc
> > > > > > and the Pound Sterling.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > >expect that 80 % to dwindle, for the
> > > > following
> > > > > > reasons:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John, I agree with most points of your
> > > > analysis
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >The exact amount of power the Euro will
> > take
> > > > from
> > > > > > the Dollar is unknown,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > >rest assured what ever it is, it will
> > have a
> > > > > > negative effect on the US
> > > > > > > >economy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > but here I disagree : there is no reason
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > > > euro damages US
> > > > > > > economy, on the contrary. What it could
> > hurt
> > > > is
> > > > > > the dollar supremacy
> > > > > > > in international financial transactions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In any case it will be a factor of
> > equilibrium
> > > > and
> > > > > > stability.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Louis
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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