Bill and friends: In my little way I tried to draw the attention of *Standards Organisations* to harmonise 'Date Writing on the lines of ISO satndard' for use of DOCUMENTATIONS; so Nations followed the date expression by other nations, through my contribution: Calendar Reform:METRIC, SIDEREAL OR DECIMAL CALENDAR; The Standard Engineer V-26 N 2 & 3; April 1992-March 1993; Bureau of Indian Standards, New Delhi. The following were just NINE ways to write the same date, apart from languages: 22.3.1993; 22.3.93; 22-03-1993; 22 March 1993; March 22, 1993; 22nd Mar. 1993; 22 Mar. 93; 22 Mar. 93; 22nd March 1993. There certainly is a need to agree for *common dating*. ISO standard 8601:2000 can be agood start. Brij B. Vij<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [USMA:22488] RE: ISO 8601 dates in email headers -- OFF TOPIC! >Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 00:14:00 -0700 > >I'm not sure what the purpose of this discussion is. > >The components of SMTP email headers were established 20 years ago, in RFC >821. The protocol requires dd mmm yy format, as described below: > ><daytime> ::= <SP> <date> <SP> <time> > > <date> ::= <dd> <SP> <mon> <SP> <yy> > > <time> ::= <hh> ":" <mm> ":" <ss> <SP> <zone> > > <dd> ::= the one or two decimal integer day of the month in > the range 1 to 31. > > <mon> ::= "JAN" | "FEB" | "MAR" | "APR" | "MAY" | "JUN" | > "JUL" | "AUG" | "SEP" | "OCT" | "NOV" | "DEC" > > <yy> ::= the two decimal integer year of the century in the > range 00 to 99. > >Unless and until there is a major revision to SMTP (not likely), developers >of email software have no choice but to follow this protocol. > >This is not a good topic for this listserver, as neither SMTP nor ISO 8601 >has anything to do with SI. (ISO 8601 is philosophically consistent with SI >and is, in my opinion, a good thing. But it isn't SI.) > >Please see http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0821.txt. > >Now, if you're talking about the "Received" date and time stamp in message >header lines, as opposed to SMTP message headers, I've been displaying the >date and time in ISO 8601 format for a long time now. Both Outlook 2000 >(under Windows XP Pro on my laptop) and Outlook Express 5.5 (on my Windows >98 SE machine) conform perfectly to my Windows Regional Options. I'm not >sure where the difficulty arises. > >Bill Potts, CMS >Roseville, CA >http://metric1.org [SI Navigator] > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > >Behalf Of Han Maenen > >Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 12:54 > >To: U.S. Metric Association > >Subject: [USMA:22487] Re: Why ISO paper is metric and US paper is not > > > > > >It is very difficult to get the headers of one's emails to give ISO 8601. > >Outlook Express always seems to use MMM-DD-YY and am/pm, irrespective of > >one's regional settings. This is the reason why John gets all these >e-mails > >with MM-DD-YYYY and am/pm formats from abroad. I have two PC's. One has > >Windows 98, the new one that I use for the Internet has Windows XP. Both > >were set to the Dutch language and metric, YYYY-MM-DD and 24 hour format >in > >the regional settings. Yet my e-mails produced American date and time; >John > >had informed of this. What did I do? Really weird. To start, I set my new > >computer to USA English. Then I changed within that format all the >relevant > >settings: system of units, date, time, decimal marker and currency > >unit. And > >it worked! Outlook Express, always going to USA settings, accepted my > >modified ones. Now my e-mail headers show the YYYY-MM-DD and 24 hour > >settings at last. > > > >Han > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Sunday, 2002-10-06 16:23 > >Subject: [USMA:22472] Re: Why ISO paper is metric and US paper is not > > > > > >> 2002-10-06 > >> > >> Markus, > >> > >> I have received e-mails at work from many different parts of the > >world and > >> in ALL cases, the header that their computers produce is in the > >US format. > >> My computer is set to the ISO format, so it displays on their computers > >that > >> way, but theirs always appears in the US format. This is because > >Microsoft > >> defaults its operating system to US formats when English is the >selected > >> language, and all of the correspondences so far have their settings to > >> English. > > > ><snip> > >> John > > > ><snip> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
