Dear Mike,

What the people do not realize is that the change is trivial only requiring a change on their web site. I did the change in EXCEL in about 10 minutes.

The degree of difficulty is not great and I would have then given the web site to all 500 students in architecture and construction science who will end up all over the country. I thought it would have been good advertising and I got the benefit of a metric web site. Such is life.

Further to the metric forum, one of my students told me in class today that their little sibling was only being taught metric in a Texas school. Maybe we should find out if many schools teach only in metric. It would be a good point at the forum.

There is a much more important reason to move to metric. The soldiers who protect us work in metric. How can we expect them to grow up in imperial and then move quickly to metric whilst learning to be soldiers. When anyone asks in my class why I teach only in metric I point out this is a partly military based school and I am going to make sure all the students learn to the best of their ability the things they have to learn.

One student told me the other day she had no idea what a metre was and why did she have to learn as she worked in small Texas architecture practice. I replied that I was concerned with all my students and some may end up in places like Iraq and ethically I was bound to teach all to the best of my ability. If you are going to learn something then be immersed in it.

Anyway just my end of day rant. But ask your local school district what they teach in. What are the Federal standards on this point. Ask the VFW to support metric?

Anything is worth a try.


John Nichols



From: "Mike Joy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [USMA:22909] Klein Steel
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 07:06:58 +0800
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This is a response from Klein Steel with their reasons for not using SI
units. My letter to them is underneath their response.

Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: "Shirley Atkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mike Joy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: NIST meeting


Dear Mr. Joy,

I have not deleted your message as all communication is very important
to us.  However, we are a small company servicing Western New York State
only.  As such, to include metric sizes in our stock list would add an
additional expense and our customer base does not require metric
conversions.  I understand that in a global market using the metric
system would be imperative and those companies that do business globally
would most certainly benefit.

Thank you for your interest in Klein Steel Service.

Shirley Atkins

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Joy [mailto:mjoy@;iinet.net.au]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 7:26 AM
To: Shirley Atkins
Subject: NIST meeting

Ms. Atkins,

I'm sorry to hear that Klein Steel has no plans at all to use the metric
system on any literature for it's products.

That is much like the Taliban preventing the whole of Afghanistan from
hearing any news that is of non-Muslim origin.

While the rest of the world is enjoying the 21st century, we shake our
heads in disbelief that the only excuse you and the US has to stay with
the old system of measures is "that your customers purchase in imperial
measurements". It hasn't occurred to you that they don't have a choice!

If your company (particularly as it has a German name) had any
initiative, it would show the US that it is a forward-thinking company and
uses the
metric system predominantly.

Please do not hit the delete button on this suggestion - I AM making a
lot of sense. When customers around the world have a choice to use the old
or new system of measures when buying products, they MUCH prefer to use
metric values for the sake of ease of use and ease of making comparisons.

There is a public meeting re product labelling at the Dept of Commerce
Auditorium, Herbert C Hoover Bldg, Washington DC on November 7 hosted by
NIST which I strongly suggest someone from your company attends. It
might do your company a lot of good - it certainly won't harm it.

All the best for Klein Steel.

Regards

Mike Joy
Perth, Australia
John Nichols BE, Ph.D. (Newcastle), MIE (Aust), Chartered Professional Engineer
Assistant Professor
Texas A&M University
Department of Construction Science
Langford AC
Rm: A414 MD 3137
College Station, TX 77843-3137

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