Just a nit, Stan.

"Metric tonne" (as opposed to "metric ton") is redundant. A tonne is, by
definition, metric.

Bill Potts, CMS
Roseville, CA
http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]


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>Behalf Of G. Stanley Doore
>Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 04:18
>To: U.S. Metric Association
>Subject: [USMA:25172] Re: Replies to various postings
>
>
>A meaningful way to understand a metric tonne is to visualize one cubic
>meter of water which is 1000 litres.
>
>Stan Doore
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Carl Sorenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 2:41 AM
>Subject: [USMA:25169] Replies to various postings
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>> Mg vs. metric ton:
>> I'm with Gene and Gustaf in preferring metric tons to Mg.  Jim Elwell, in
>> answer to your question, Mg is ridiculous because 1) a person will
>probably
>> be able to visualize 1000 kg much better than 1000000 g, 2) the
>metric ton
>> is authorized for use, 3) normally people will have an idea what a metric
>> ton is (an analog to the short ton), 4) normally people will
>think that Mg
>> is the same thing as mg, having never seen the first but having seen the
>> second many times.  Comprehension will be served by using the metric ton
>as
>> a unit.  Comprehension will be terrible in the vast majority of
>circles in
>> the U.S. if people use Mg as a unit (or Mm, etc.).  Being
>incomprehensible
>> in metric usage is a good way to reinforce the idea that metric is
>> confusing.  I understand that Mg is a technically legal way to do things,
>> but in practice I am more concerned with actually communicating.  Just
>using
>> metric in the first place sets me apart, so I really don't care what some
>> document says somewhere about which is preferred.
>>
>> FPLA timeline:
>> Brian, someone said a few months ago that the proposed legislation needs
>to
>> work its way through a number of agencies before it is submitted to
>> Congress.  They said it would probably be considered at the beginning of
>> next year, which is (apparently) the start of a session.  I don't think
>> John's (kilopascal) statement that "nothing has come of it yet" doesn't
>> really give the full picture, as the legislation is expected to take some
>> time.
>>
>> euroisation and dollar hegemony:
>> I would be a lot more convinced if the author of these postings did not
>> routinely oversimplify economic processes, continually predict the
>imminent
>> destruction of America, compare Bush to Hitler, confuse "than"
>and "then",
>> ascribe anti-metric motives to just about any good business decision, and
>> generally make a nuisance of himself.
>> >"euroisation = metrication" MUST be our battle cry.
>> NOT.  Why would we associate the metric system, which should be as
>American
>> as apple pie, with Europe, which a lot of us are annoyed with at the
>moment?
>> America's share of world GDP has been shrinking for decades, lately
>because
>> of Asia's development, not Europe's development or America's decline.
>Let's
>> promote metric on its merits, not by hoping the U.S. stumbles.
>>
>> RE: Some interesting conversations:
>> >So Carl,  did you discuss with him the idea not
>> >to give in and continue to use SI when conversing
>> >with people?  What good is paying lip service to SI,
>> >if the guy tries to appease the ignorant and
>> >struggles with FFU?
>> Actually, he used metric in a previous conversation, so I didn't think it
>> was necessary.  Besides, I didn't think it was appropriate to the
>> conversation.  He, like most people, is mostly interested in
>communicating
>> well, and especially in his position as a foreigner and
>non-native speaker
>> of English, he is probably extra-sensitive to making sure that people
>> understand what he says.  I respect that desire.
>>
>> I agree with Stephen Gallagher that Canada will have trouble metricating
>> until we metricate.  Like him, I see Canada's continued use of metric for
>> many things as very positive.  As I see it, the pendulum swings
>both ways,
>> and we are in the midst of a swing the wrong way.  It'll come
>back, but it
>> is encouraging to see that things are as good as they are at the moment.
>>
>> metric in construction:
>> According to the recent Baron's article, federal buildings are being
>> constructed in metric.
>>
>> Carl Sorenson
>>
>>

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