There is an Amish Dutch market near my house.  There is a butcher, a
vegetable counter, a bakery, a candy store, and a delicatessen, among other
things.

The delicatessen sells various potato and macaroni salads and other things
in three containers - small, medium, and large.  The price is determined by
the reading of the container on the scale once it is filled.

Despite the fact that what people really want is a small, a medium, or a
large container, filled, the way most of them ask for it is that they want a
"pound" of the product being purchased.  

And at the butcher they ask for a two "pounds" of sausage when this is
something you count and what they really want is four, or six, or eight
sausages.

Strange.

Carleton

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Stephen Humphreys
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 07:31
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:38484] Re: Unexpected appearance of SI in US media

Mostly, people don't use an entire slab of butter when cooking (how bad for 
the heart would that be?).
I'm backing Jason here - whenever I make an omlette, for example, I take a 
"bit" of butter for the pan.  I don't break out a science book and use 
accuracies of butter en-meltment (made-up new word!) based upon a precise 
theory.  This accounts for most, and perhaps sometimes, all daily 
activities.

Martin- ask the average shopper for the "mass" of the butter they just 
bought, next time you're in Tesco.  You might be suprised (but I hope not) 
at how many people use appearance (and "large", "small" etc) to make their 
decisions.


>From: "Martin Vlietstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
>Subject: [USMA:38477] Re: Unexpected appearance of SI in US media
>Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:10:45 +0100
>
>Re: [USMA:38469] Re: Unexpected appearance of SI in US mediaThe problem 
>with cooking arises when I am confronted with American recipes - what is a 
>"stick of butter"? I havn't got a clue.  In the UK, we buy our butter in 
>250g or 500g packs.  The "Concise Oxford Dictionary" devotes a whole page 
>to the word "stick", but I am left none the wiser.  On the other hand, a 
>French recipe might have "100 g buerre" I can look up the meaning of 
>"buerre" in any English-French dictionary.  This, I think, illustrates the 
>need to use a consistent set of units across the nations of the earth.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: James Jason Wentworth
>   To: U.S. Metric Association
>   Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:44 PM
>   Subject: [USMA:38475] Re: Unexpected appearance of SI in US media
>
>
>   *Sigh*  When I prepare tomato soup for lunch, I add one can of water 
>(using the soup can, as instructed on the label) to the condensed soup in 
>the sauce pan, then heat it on simmer, stirring occasionally.
>
>   That's not a scientific experiment, just a meal, and the units used in 
>preparing it are irrelevent to me as well as to 99.999% of other people who

>prepare similar cans of soup.  (Other recipes do require greater precision 
>in ingredient quantities, temperatures, and cooking times, of course).  But

>even then, the choice of units is irrelevant.  What matters is that they be

>consistently used in a recipe.
>
>   The same is true for most of the daily activities of most people--it 
>doesn't matter what units (if any) they actively use as long as they are 
>from the same system or collection of units.
>
>
>   --  Jason
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Pat Naughtin
>     To: U.S. Metric Association
>     Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 9:26 PM
>     Subject: [USMA:38470] Re: Unexpected appearance of SI in US media
>
>
>     On 2007 04 21 2:42 PM, "James Jason Wentworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
>
>
>       Many people even in metric countries (cooks, carpenters, plumbers, 
>etc.) don't consider *all* measurement scientific.  --  Jason
>
>
>
>
>     Dear Jason,
>
>     I think that the Marquis de Condorcet (1743/1794) put it rather well 
>when he referred to the metric system as:
>
>     'A tous les peuples; a tous les temps'
>     ('For all people; for all time')
>
>
>     Together with the developers of the metric system in the 1790s he 
>believed that the metric system was for everyone - and in all activities.
>
>     They were aware that nothing affects human activities so much as the 
>choice of the methods of measurement. No other aspect of our behavior 
>influences the course of human activity so directly and so universally. I 
>think that this was recognised by the developers of the metric system when 
>they adopted the Marquis de Condorcet's motto.
>
>     Looking at this a little more broadly, it seems that there are four 
>universal methods of written communication.
>
>     The four methods that cross all language barriers are:
>
>     q the way of writing notes for music,
>
>     q the set of mathematical signs and symbols,
>
>     q the symbols for chemical elements, and
>
>     q the International System of Units (SI).
>
>     These four methods can be understood wherever you are in the world and

>whatever language you use to speak and to write. It doesn't even matter if 
>you write with an alphabet or you use pictograms; you will still be able to

>understand these four international methods.
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Pat Naughtin
>     PO Box 305, Belmont, 3216
>     Geelong, Australia
>     Phone 61 3 5241 2008
>
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