The NOAA and other agencies adhere to the EO by using metric units internally 
and  disseminating weather info in metric to those who require metric.  It's 
internal and doesn't pertain to the external general public, media use.  It's 
the same problem as the grocery industry has in standardizing on metric only 
labeling.  If the media decided to change to metric only, the NOAA would 
probably change immediately.  Incidentally, the numerical forecast models have 
been computed in metric since they began in the 1950s.
    Stan Doore
  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jeremiah MacGregor 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 11:43 PM
  Subject: [USMA:42941] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


  What about the executive order for government agencies to use SI?  Wouldn't 
that have already covered that circumstance?

  Jerry




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  From: STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]>
  To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
  Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2009 4:14:14 PM
  Subject: [USMA:42935] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


  Jerry:
      It is the responsibility of the Congress and the President of the United 
States to order NOAA and the NWS to change weather reporting in the US  to 
metric only units similar to the way they are doing for the conversion from 
analog to digital television.  It's also similar to the metric only labeling 
issue for products for which the NIST has drafted legislation.
      Stan Doore

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jeremiah MacGregor 
    To: STANLEY DOORE 
    Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:47 PM
    Subject: Re: [USMA:42650] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


    Stan,

    What Congressional mandate?

    Jerry




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    From: STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 11:52:21 PM
    Subject: Re: [USMA:42650] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


    NOAA and the National Weather Service change units to English.  They do 
this to be consistent with Congressional mandate.
        Stan Doore

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jeremiah MacGregor 
      To: U.S. Metric Association 
      Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:10 PM
      Subject: [USMA:42650] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


      Stan,

      Who changes the metric information to English units prior to broadcasting?

      Jerry




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      From: STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]>
      To: [email protected]; U.S. Metric Association 
<[email protected]>
      Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:12:02 PM
      Subject: Re: [USMA:42436] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


          The NIST has already drafted changes in legislation to allow metric 
only labeling.  Federal agencies are left to make decisions regarding 
implementation of metric within their jurisdiction. 
          Weather instruments are being procured with metric readouts.  
Internally, weather forecasting has been metric for years  and it continues to 
be metric.  
          The media and the Congress need to decide when and how to present 
weather to the public in metric..   There is plenty of worldwide experience in 
this.
          Stan Doore

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Jeremiah MacGregor 
        To: U.S. Metric Association 
        Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 10:12 AM
        Subject: [USMA:42436] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


        Stan,

        What laws need to be changed?  I was under the impression that there 
are no laws in the US favoring any system.  So wouldn't it just have to be the 
choice of the producers of the products to use metric only?

        Jerry




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        From: STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]>
        To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
        Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:08:32 AM
        Subject: [USMA:42402] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


        Pat et al:

            Changing laws in the US to allow metric only labeling and requiring 
the Federal Government to buy metric products and to make conversion to the SI 
mandatory, such as weather reporting and road signs, needs to be the first 
step.  Until this is done, it won't happen.

        Stan Doore



          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Pat Naughtin 
          To: U.S. Metric Association 
          Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:39 AM
          Subject: [USMA:42401] President Obama at George Mason University


          Dear All, 


          I have just been reading the text of the speech that President Barack 
Obama presented at George Mason University on January 8. His forward thinking 
plans particularly struck me as plans that would all benefit enormously from 
being conducted using metric system measurements. Here is part of the text of 
President Obama's speech:
          That work begins with this plan – a plan I am confident will save or 
create at least three million jobs over the next few years. It is not just 
another public works program. It’s a plan that recognizes both the paradox and 
the promise of this moment – the fact that there are millions of Americans 
trying to find work, even as, all around the country, there is so much work to 
be done. That’s why we’ll invest in priorities like energy and education; 
health care and a new infrastructure that are necessary to keep us strong and 
competitive in the 21st century. That’s why the overwhelming majority of the 
jobs created will be in the private sector, while our plan will save the public 
sector jobs of teachers, cops, fire fighters and others who provide vital 
services.

          To finally spark the creation of a clean energy economy, we will 
double the production of alternative energy in the next three years. We will 
modernize more than 75% of federal buildings and improve the energy efficiency 
of two million American homes, saving consumers and taxpayers billions on our 
energy bills. In the process, we will put Americans to work in new jobs that 
pay well and can’t be outsourced – jobs building solar panels and wind 
turbines; constructing fuel-efficient cars and buildings; and developing the 
new energy technologies that will lead to even more jobs, more savings, and a 
cleaner, safer planet in the bargain.

          To improve the quality of our health care while lowering its cost, we 
will make the immediate investments necessary to ensure that within five years, 
all of America’s medical records are computerized. This will cut waste, 
eliminate red tape, and reduce the need to repeat expensive medical tests. But 
it just won’t save billions of dollars and thousands of jobs – it will save 
lives by reducing the deadly but preventable medical errors that pervade our 
health care system.

          To give our children the chance to live out their dreams in a world 
that’s never been more competitive, we will equip tens of thousands of schools, 
community colleges, and public universities with 21st century classrooms, labs, 
and libraries.. We’ll provide new computers, new technology, and new training 
for teachers so that students in Chicago and Boston can compete with kids in 
Beijing for the high-tech, high-wage jobs of the future.

          I couldn't help thinking that the metrication elephant had got into 
the room again without anyone noticing. See 
http://www.metricationmatters.com/docs/AMetricationElephant.pdf to see how 
metrication in the USA would help to implement President Obama's plans.

          Cheers,
          Pat Naughtin


          PO Box 305 Belmont 3216,
          Geelong, Australia
          Phone: 61 3 5241 2008


          Metric system consultant, writer, and speaker, Pat Naughtin, has 
helped thousands of people and hundreds of companies upgrade to the modern 
metric system smoothly, quickly, and so economically that they now save 
thousands each year when buying, processing, or selling for their businesses. 
Pat provides services and resources for many different trades, crafts, and 
professions for commercial, industrial and government metrication leaders in 
Asia, Europe, and in the USA. Pat's clients include the Australian Government, 
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