I think he works mainly on railroad projects, which due to legacy concerns
are pretty much in colonial units.

 

cm

 

From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf
Of John M. Steele
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:16
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:43412] RE: Mistaken blather from a correspondent on another
list

 


If he is "very conservative," he no doubt favors very literal interpretation
of the Constitution (especially 1st and 2nd amendments) and decries liberal
judges who interpret to other than what it says. Soooo, how does he feel
about the section that grants Congress the say in establishing the system of
weights & measures.

 

As a civil engineer, how does he (and his company?) feel about participating
in purely Federal construction projects, which are specified to be metric.
Do they no-bid?

--- On Sat, 3/7/09, Carleton MacDonald <carlet...@comcast.net> wrote:

From: Carleton MacDonald <carlet...@comcast.net>
Subject: [USMA:43407] RE: Mistaken blather from a correspondent on another
list
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>
Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 10:44 AM

Domestic civil engineering.

 

From: Jeremiah MacGregor [mailto:jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 21:32
To: carlet...@comcast.net; U.S. Metric Association
Subject: Re: [USMA:43390] RE: Mistaken blather from a correspondent on
another list

 

What kind of engineer?  As an engineer he is the most likely person in a
company to encounter customer wishes.  In a global economy the chances of
encountering English units only is non-existent.  

 

On the other end of the spectrum he also has to contend with goods and
services that are all metric even if some may hide behind English
conversions.  Trying to design a product in English units and having to
incorporate products that are fully metric can present problems, especially
if your thinking is obsolete.

 

It would be interesting know what he does and how much metric he encounters
daily.  

 

Jerry

 

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From: Carleton MacDonald <carlet...@comcast.net>
To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 9:10:02 PM
Subject: [USMA:43390] RE: Mistaken blather from a correspondent on another
list

He's an engineer.  The kind that designs, not that drives trains.

 

From: Jeremiah MacGregor [mailto:jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 21:04
To: carlet...@comcast.net; U.S. Metric Association
Subject: Re: [USMA:43388] RE: Mistaken blather from a correspondent on
another list

 

But so far the government hasn't really become involved to a point that
affects consumers.  Whatever metric we encounter comes from the free choice
of people.  For example, did the government force any industry to go metric?
Yet, there are those who have freely chosen to do so.  

 

Or does he still insist the government had a hand in it?  I wonder what type
of work he does and what he would tell a paying customer if the customer
insisted he speak metric to them or provide metric information for them.  Do
you know what kind of work he does?

 

Jerry 

 

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From: Carleton MacDonald <carlet...@comcast.net>
To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 8:52:56 PM
Subject: [USMA:43388] RE: Mistaken blather from a correspondent on another
list

No, he's just very, very conservative.  The idea that "gummint" could "tell
him what to do" is anathema.  And that trumps any benefit that going metric
may have.

 

Carleton

 

From: Jeremiah MacGregor [mailto:jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 18:58
To: carlet...@comcast.net; U..S. Metric Association
Subject: Re: [USMA:43256] Mistaken blather from a correspondent on another
list

 

What exactly is this guy's problem with the metric system?  He seems to know
it so it can't be unfamiliarity. 

 

Did he work for a company that switched to metric and he opposed and they
fired him and now he is taking it out on the whole system?  

 

Jerry 

 

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From: Carleton MacDonald <carlet...@comcast.net>
To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:54:05 AM
Subject: [USMA:43256] Mistaken blather from a correspondent on another list

On a passenger railroad-oriented list to which I also belong, an article was
quoted which included mention of "kph".  I pointed this out, and received
this reply from another list member who in the past has espoused very
conservative opinions. 

 

Fire away, all..

 

Carleton

From:  <mailto:All_Aboard%40yahoogroups.com> all_abo...@yahoogroups.com On
Behalf Of abyler
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 22:47
To:  <mailto:All_Aboard%40yahoogroups.com> all_abo...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [A_A] Full steam ahead for California bullet train

--- In  <mailto:All_Aboard%40yahoogroups.com> all_abo...@yahoogroups.com,
"Carleton MacDonald" wrote:
>
> Also, the speed is expressed incorrectly - it should be "350 km/h" - there
> is no such thing as a "kph".

[his answer:]


Sure there is..

Its not like km/h is a normal SI measurement. The silly and useless 
SI Metric system would insist on us using m/s.

kph is the colloquial Anglosphere abbreviation for kilmoeters per 
hour..

Kilometers per hour is just a bastardized bending of metric system 
rules to accomodate something like a traditional customary speed 
measurement most people can relate to and actually use, just like the 
metric "pound" (= 1/2kg); "livre" in France, "pfund" in 
Germany, "pond" in the Netherlands and Flanders, "libra" in Iberia 
and Italy, "jin" in China; and the metric "ton" (=1000 kg); the 
metric cup (=250 mL); the metric teaspoon (=5 mL); the metric 
horsepower (750 kgf-m/s).

See, that's the problem with the SI metric system compared to English 
customary units which is based on normal and practical human 
experience instead of esoteric physics. People cannot relate to the 
true SI metric units for most applications, so they don't use them.

Just one more reason so many railways systems (and international 
aviation and shipping and meterology) have stuck with English units 
or older versions of metric where the units make more sense for 
engineering purposes and practical thinking by human beings.

 

 

 

 

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