Dear John F-L, Jerry, Patrick, John M S, and All,
This article might help you decide which spelling you will choose for
metre or meter, and litre or liter, and in what circumstances you will
use them: http://www.metricationmatters.com/docs/Spelling_metre_or_meter.pdf
Cheers,
Pat Naughtin
Geelong, Australia
On 2009/04/25, at 4:47 PM, John Frewen-Lord wrote:
I agree with Jerry on this one. Both spellings are acceptable to
me, but the -re spelling makes a bit more sense as a whole (and as
Jerry points out harmonises with the rest of the world).
Still, I would suggest the -re spelling is acceptable in the US. I
don't know about the latest editions, but my copy of ASTM E 621 -
84, Standard Practice for the Use of Metric (SI) Units in Building
Design and Construction (Committee E-6 Supplement to E 380) uses the
-re spelling throughout (see attached scan).
John F-L
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremiah MacGregor
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 4:03 AM
Subject: [USMA:44833] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10
I can't believe the US is so arrogant that they have to make such an
issue over spelling. I don't see why both ways can't be accepted.
We use centre and theatre in the US, so why not litre and metre?
Maybe it is time for the US to adopt the ISO and IEC standards.
Being different in a global market is the surest way to lose
business. A bankrupt economy doesn't have the option to go against
the grain. That is most likely the main reason the US is bankrupt.
Jerry
From: Patrick Moore <pmo...@asnt.org>
To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:48:35 PM
Subject: [USMA:44783] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10
Here are two answers for why to buy IEEE/ASTM SI-10 when BIPM is free.
To spell meter etc., the BIPM uses the spelling –re, which is
unacceptable in edited American English. I mention this, realizing
that some readers in this group are livid that metricians in the USA
persist in opening our eggs at the small end. But there it is, one
answer.
Many ASTM and IEEE standards - and so (we hope) many industry
contracts - specify use of IEEE/ASTM SI-10. For many purposes in the
USA, it can achieve regulatory force in a way that BIPM does not.
It would be nice to download IEEE/ASTM SI-10 for free.
I am not making a recommendation here, just answering a question..
My original question, asking for the latest edition, was
bibliographic.
From: Jeremiah MacGregor <jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail.com>
Reply-To: <jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:04:56 -0700 (PDT)
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>
Subject: [USMA:44717] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10
Why pay for a publication from the ANSI when the same information is
available for free from the BIPM.
http://www.bipm.org/en/si/
Jerry
From: John M. Steele <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net>
To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:01:31 PM
Subject: [USMA:44688] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10
Latest edition is 2002. Here is a link to it at ANSI:
http://webstore.ansi.org/RecordDetail.aspx?sku=SI10-2002
That edition corresponds to 7th edition of SI Brochure. I
understand it is currently being revised to latest edition of SI
Brochure and NIST SP 330. I don't know the schedule, or the extent
of revisions.
.
--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Patrick Moore <pmo...@asnt.org> wrote:
From: Patrick Moore <pmo...@asnt.org>
Subject: [USMA:44687] IEEE/ASTM SI-10
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 11:29 AM
What is the latest publication year/edition of IEEE/ASTM SI-10,
"Standard for the Use of the International System of Units (SI):
The Modern Metric System"? It is difficult to find it in the
ASTM catalog or website or the IEEE site: many documents reference
it but the standard itself does not come up, for me anyway.
Thanks.
<ASTM scan.jpg>
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