When did this bill originate and when will it be voted on?
Per the status link below, HB 36 was introduced to the Hawaii Senate last week on January 16th. That was the first day of the 2013 legislative session. Usually a massive number of bills are introduced on the first day (looks like it was ~700 bills in Hawaii) by the Representatives which are then read one-by-one and assigned committees. HB 36 was assigned to the Judiciary and <http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/committeepage.aspx?comm=CPC> Consumer Protection & Commerce committees. The bill will NOT be voted upon until both the Chairs of the JUD and CPC schedule hearings and committee votes on the bill. It may be months. http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=HB <http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=HB&billnumber=36&; year=2013> &billnumber=36&year=2013 Who, other than Karl, is supporting this bill? What are its chances of passing? No one as if now is co-sponsoring the bill. There were 700 other bills introduced same day. If the metrication bill is going to receive any attention by lawmakers, it will have to have be covered in the Hawaiian media. What surprises me is that (1) Rep. Rhoads vice-chairs the Judiciary committee and (2) the bill is surprisingly thorough. He either dedicated some thought to this, or he has a very active intern working for him. The chances of it passing are very slim. One of the documents I looked over said that metrication is to be complete "by 2018", but from the other articles, it won't start until 2018. Which is it? The exact text of the legislation is, "SECTION 10. This Act shall take effect on January 1, 2018; provided that sections 7 and 8 shall take effect upon approval," meaning that the law, which makes the SI system the officially recognized system of measurement, will take effect on January 1st, 2018. The process of metrication or the "preparation" will occur for the next 5 years and then become official on January 1st. If the bill passes, is there anything we can expect to see changed right away? Weather reports in the media, gas pumps, store scales, are all things that can be changed quickly and expose the public. No. Sections 2, 3, 7 and 8 of the bill authorize the various government agencies and wonks to create rules concerning the metrication process in education, agriculture, tax policy and other official uses of measurement. Nothing would change if the bill were to pass until January 1st, 2018 which would be the day everyone would switch. Other legislation or activities by non-governmental organizations would be unrelated. What about the FPLA, it would still require dual labels on those products mostly found in stores. Hawaii cannot affect this law. But it can metricate everything that it has jurisdiction over. Doing a Google search on Hawaii metric didn't bring anything up. Is this something that has been in the news in Hawaii? Is it popular? It has not been mentioned in Hawaii or any other media platform as if yet. Zach VanNatta /u/metrication www.reddit.com/r/metric From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of derryod...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:07 PM To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:52232] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B. 36 That's what we have to find out. Especially other legislative folks who are in favor of this bill. We should get in touch with the other supporters as well. I'll be looking for them once I can find more info about HB 36 Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone _____ From: Kilopascal <kilopas...@cox.net>; To: <usma@colostate.edu>; Subject: Re: [USMA:52218] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B. 36 Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2013 3:03:02 AM I never heard of him before your post. I have a few questions. When did this bill originate and when will it be voted on? Who, other than Karl, is supporting this bill? What are its chances of passing? One of the documents I looked over said that metrication is to be complete "by 2018", but from the other articles, it won't start until 2018. Which is it? If the bill passes, is there anything we can expect to see changed right a way? Weather reports in the media, gas pumps, store scales, are all things that can be changed quickly and expose the public. What about the FPLA, it would still require dual labels on those products mostly found in stores. I hope it passes and it works its way into being a catalyst for other states to metricate. I just hope the metric movement isn't just another side of the succession issue. Doing a Google search on Hawaii metric didn't bring anything up. Is this something that has been in the news in Hawaii? Is it popular? From: derryod...@yahoo.com <javascript:return> Sent: Tuesday, 2013-01-22 21:16 To: kilopas...@cox.net <javascript:return> ; usma@colostate.edu <javascript:return> Subject: Re: [USMA:52218] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B. 36 Regarding Karl Rhoads, I think we should get in contact with him and get some more info on HB 36 Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone _____ From: Kilopascal <kilopas...@cox.net <javascript:return> >; To: <derryod...@yahoo.com <javascript:return> >; <usma@colostate.edu <javascript:return> >; Subject: Re: [USMA:52218] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B. 36 Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2013 2:01:57 AM The whole process at the time was a big mess. The states only pretended to do it because the feds told them too, but never forced metrication down to the local level. The states that actually went metric held out the longest, the one's that quickly reverted actually never went. Is it any wonder why Americans roads are the worst in the developed world? Some third world countries have better roads than in the US. From: derryod...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, 2013-01-22 20:46 To: kilopas...@cox.net ; usma@colostate.edu Subject: RE: [USMA:52218] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B. 36 Either way, CalTrans went backwards in a big way. I'm trying to find an appropriate contact form on their website to try to contact someone regarding why they went back from using metric. Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone _____ From: Kilopascal <kilopas...@cox.net>; To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>; Subject: [USMA:52218] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B. 36 Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:42:46 AM Caltrans never, ever used imperial. They used the older US version, called USC (for United States Customary). Imperial was used only in the British Commonwealth after 1824 and never adopted in the US. Imperial is technically illegal in the US. [USMA:52218] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B. 36 <http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=usma@colostate.edu&q=subject:%22%5BUSM A%3A52218%5D+RE%3A+current+status+of+the+Hawaii+metric+bill%2C+H.B.+36%22> derryodell <http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=usma@colostate.edu&q=from:%22derryodel l%22> Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:15:34 -0800 <http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=usma@colostate.edu&q=date:20130122> CalTrans actually went back to using imperial units from last I heard. It's unfortunate considering they had a plan to implement metric in new projects. <br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone<br/> No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2639/6050 - Release Date: 01/22/13 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2639/6050 - Release Date: 01/22/13
