What units did Hawaii use before it became an American state (ca. early 1960s?)
John F-L
From: ezra.steinb...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:11 AM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:52233] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B. 36
Since Hawaii has no land borders with another U.S. state, it can certainly put
up metric road signs if it chooses to (barring some surprise ruling or
regulation coming from the Feds).
One advantage that would have (besides attracting more Asian tourists and
investors) would be to make Hawaii seem even more "exotic" to American
mainland tourists than it already is. Another "feature" to be added to the
islands! :-)
-- Ezra
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From: "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:32:39 PM
Subject: [USMA:52223] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B. 36
It was made legal years (decades??) ago. It was actually done for a while when
price went over $1/gallon. When they got new pumps, they went back. I don't
think the law legalizing it was ever changed; just nobody does it.
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"usma@colostate.edu" <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Tue, January 22, 2013 8:24:12 PM
Subject: RE: [USMA:52220] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B. 36
What's the situation with gas pumps? Isn't it legal to sell gas by the
liter? Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't pumps covered under the UPLR? Just
wondering.
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From: John M. Steele <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net>;
To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>;
Subject: [USMA:52220] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B. 36
Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2013 1:14:25 AM
Maybe. I tend to think so, but the situation is confusing.
The regulations relative to signs are in the MUTCD (Manual for Unniform
Traffic Control Devices). The actual detailed specs for the signs (including
example messages) are in SHSM (Standard Highway Signs and Markings).
The latest MUTCD (2009) removed all metric message examples and moved all
metric dimensions to an appendix. Nothing says they are now illegal, the
rationale was "nobody uses them, lets simplify the book." But a companion SHSM
has never been issued. So far, they have retained 2004 SHSM and issued a 2012
Supplement only for sample layouts of new signs. The metric message examples
are still in 2004 SHSM, but are removed from 2009 MUTCD.
It seems to me if any State wanted to use metric signs, it would want to
check with the Feds for an opinion, but there are no words that say they have
become unlawful with the latest edition. Given their presence in 2004 SHSM,
there seems to be adequate layout guidance. Sadly, no State wants to. IF
Hawaii passes that bill, 50-0 would become 49-1, but it would be a start..
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From: "ezra.steinb...@comcast.net" <ezra.steinb...@comcast.net>
To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Tue, January 22, 2013 6:17:50 PM
Subject: [USMA:52214] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B.
36
So, the states still have the option of putting up metric-only road signs
for speed limits and distances? Sure hope so!
-- Ezra
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From: "Paul Trusten" <trus...@grandecom.net>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:35:00 AM
Subject: [USMA:52213] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B.
36
This is a metrication bill, signs and gas included(grin). But, yes, a
statement on the 1988 act should be added to the bill. Thanks, Phil.
Paul Trusten, Reg. Pharmacist
Vice President
U.S. Metric Association, Inc.
Midland, Texas USA
www.metric.org
+1(432)528-7724
trus...@grandecom.net
On Jan 22, 2013, at 9:15, Phil Chernack <pcchern...@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be nice if the bill made mention of the fact that Congress has
already declared SI to be the preferred system of measurement for the U.S.
Also, it would be nice if there was a mention of highway signs and gasoline
sales.
Phil
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:31 AM, <derryod...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm going to try to gain more support for this bill. It's one
that could set the country on a faster path to usage of SI
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To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>;
Subject: [USMA:52207] current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B.
36
Sent: Tue, Jan 22, 2013 9:00:44 AM
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=HB&billnumber=36&year=2013
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