We don't really want to discredit anyone. We want the metric system to win on its own merits, which it will do.
From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of mechtly, eugene a Sent: Thursday, 07 March 2013 11:46 To: U.S. Metric Association Cc: Trusten Paul; U.S. Metric Accociation Subject: [USMA:52462] RE: ACWM Thanks to m. f. Moon for digging out the names of ACWM participants. What can we do to discredit the ACWM opposition to metrication? Eugene Mechtly ________________________________ From: Kilopascal [kilopas...@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 6:02 PM To: m. f. moon Cc: Trusten Paul; Mechtly Gene Subject: Re: ACWM Thanks Mr Moon for this info. They may be all hot air, but the USMA shouldn't take the chance. If we try to convince people to go metric, we can't afford to have them work against us. But it is good to know these facts because we can work it into our favour. Here is what I could find on Seaver W Leslie, he is 66 http://www.whitepages.com/name/Seaver-W-Leslie/Wiscasset-ME/7w60qkm http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/people-search/names/me+brunswick/seaver/leslie.html?adID=204-0000000006 White pages says he lives in Wiscasset and Zabasearch says Brunswick. The two towns are 30 km apart. There are two listing for Peter J Seymour, which indicates about 5 years ago he moved from Randolph, ME to Portland. He is 59. http://www.whitepages.com/name/peter-seymour/Wiscasset-ME Take Care From: m. f. moon<mailto:jayhawk...@usa.net> Sent: Sunday, 2013-03-03 13:51 To: Kilopascal<mailto:kilopas...@cox.net> Subject: Re: ACWM The little town in Maine where ACWM is said to be located is of about 1000 people with a per household medium income of about $21000. This is about one-half of the national medium income. In other words, it appear to be a less than well-educated population. Consider the sources. People from these towns are opposed to many different things. In my own home-town many of the residents do not understand where their own social security income comes from -- it just appears in their bank account by magic. They believe that social security should be eliminated for example. m moon ------ Original Message ------ Received: 10:10 AM PST, 03/03/2013 From: "Kilopascal" <kilopas...@cox.net<mailto:kilopas...@cox.net>> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu<mailto:usma@colostate.edu>> Subject: Re: ACWM Gene, I don't know how possible it is. All their replies to the BWMA and UKMA Facebook page all are from the ACWM and no person's name is ever mentioned. I never can tell if the posts are by one person or more. You can scan through their posts here and hopefully you may find a clue: https://www.facebook.com/British.Weights.and.Measures.Association They do have their own Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/ACWMeas/info Their Facebook page has very little visits and most posts come from pro-metrics, which they tend to delete. I believe most of their claims to be wishful thinking or an exaggeration of something minor and obscure. Three names are present there. See below. About Americans (and friends) who wish to promote an organized resistance to forced metric conversion in the United States of America Mission Americans (and friends) who wish to promote an organised resistance to forced metric conversion in the United States of America General Information President & Founder: Seaver Leslie Director of Research: Peter Seymour Metrologist: Bob Falk Americans for Customary Weight & Measure, P.O. Box 248 Wiscasset, Maine 04578 United States of America If the USMA is to be effective they need to constantly observe what the enemy is doing otherwise no matter how small and irrelevant they are, they have the power to undo any thing we are trying to accomplish. From: mechtly, eugene a<mailto:mech...@illinois.edu> Sent: Sunday, 2013-03-03 12:52 To: Kilopascal<mailto:kilopas...@cox.net> ; U.S. Metric Association<mailto:usma@colostate.edu> Cc: mechtly, eugene a<mailto:mech...@illinois.edu> Subject: RE: ACWM Thanks Kilopascal, for the verbatim quotation (below) of the ACWM *irrational* policy, posted by the bWMA. I had never seen it before. Can we find the name of the author and names of the ACWM officers? Eugene Mechtly ________________________________ From: Kilopascal [kilopas...@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:07 AM To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: ACWM USMA, this what you are up against in your fight to metricate the US: This is a statement from the ACWM posted to the bWMA Facebook page. We are committed to diversity and culture, not a cold scientific mandate dominating the rule of law. USC are a part of our past, they remain in the present, and we are committed to ensuring their future, whether that means educating the population on our wonderful system and why it is designed the way it is, launching petitions and campaigns to counteract any attacks on the continued legality and existence of our system, or even taking to the streets to halt the attempts to metricate or alter our national heritage and infrastructure. Thankfully, we haven't had to take to the streets to prevent illegal roadsigns, our regulators have figured out that metric signs aren't used and have removed them as they wear out on the only interstate to use that signage, in New Mexico or Arizona. In the '70s, when your movement was at its strongest, the population here woke up and became very vocal that they did NOT want sweeping changes made arbitrarily, bureaucratically as it did in Canada, the UK. Some industry converted where it suited them, others did not and continue to use our system today, both here and abroad. They are willing to take the fight to the streets if metrication were to increase. You can ignore them, but they are not ignoring you. They are fighting you every step of the way. I hope you have a plan of action against them. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6141 - Release Date: 03/01/13 No virus found in this message. 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