Dear USRP-User list,

Has anyone used N321 together with CDA2990 before, and please let me know how 
to let N321 to work correctly for phase locking to the external REF signal, or 
this is a known bug with the UHD. 

Thanks,
Ming

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From: Ming You <m....@lboro.ac.uk>
Sent: 24 January 2022 17:58
To: Marcus D. Leech; usrp-users@lists.ettus.com
Subject: [USRP-users] Re: Regarding Phase Noise of N321

Thanks for the prompt reply. I've tried tuning the amplitude with a wide range, 
that doesn't affect the observed problem. Reducing the amplitude might make the 
signal strength smaller, but it is the phase problem, so zoom-in will still see 
the same.

I've tried both cable and antennas (3 different kinds antennas), and for cable 
case I am using 30dB attenuation. This doesn't change the observation, they 
phenomenon is exactely the same.

I can confirm the CDA-2990 is producing 10MHz and 1PPS, as I have mentioned, 
the set up and everything works perfected with X310, it is just N321 as I am 
controlling the variables in the experiment.

The phase rotation (constellation at rx) is not with a fixed pattern, for 
900MHz case, it is rotating back and then forward, this seems not locking 
firmly to me. For higher frequencies, some cases it is rotating back and then 
forward, sometimes it is just rotating a lot (that is hard to tell if ti is 
rotating to one direction or just back-forward). Again, the same setup with 
X310 just as robust as expected.

Thanks,
Ming

Thanks,
Ming

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From: Marcus D. Leech <patchvonbr...@gmail.com>
Sent: 24 January 2022 17:49
To: Ming You; usrp-users@lists.ettus.com
Subject: Re: [USRP-users] Re: Regarding Phase Noise of N321

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On 2022-01-24 12:37, Ming You wrote:
> Hi Marcus,
>
> The X310 is actually fulfilled by USRP-2950, i.e., X310 and WBX and GPSDO.
>
> The graph has been attached, actually it is very simple, just send a triangle 
> signal over one channels from the tx (for convenience, I've only attached one 
> antenna to the one channel on tx side, so that it is a much clear 
> constellation figure on rx side). The constellation for such case should be a 
> quadrilateral shape. With X310(WBX), the constellation at both channels at rx 
> is very robust (the shape is not moving much), but with N321, the 
> constellation shape is apparently rotating with time, and if increasing 
> frequency it might just rotate. That is what I am confused about the N321 
> phase lock performance even with external REF and PPS from CDA 2990.  It 
> seems to me that there should be some "proper" configuration/tuning, if this 
> is not a bug.
>
> Regarding the 3rd question on what I am measuring, from the above description 
> you can get an idea what I mean --  I just want the N321 to have the same 
> phase performance as X310, since the robust phase locking is critical to any 
> experiment when multiple channels/usrps are involved.
>
> Also to mention that I've tried all supported N321 master clock, 200M, 
> 245.76M and 250M, they don't help and problems are the same.
>
> Any idea or suggestions will be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Ming
>
>
What happens if you reduce  the baseband amplitude a little -- perhaps
to 0.85 or 0.9?

Are transmitting over cable or antennas?  If cable, do you have an
attenuator in place? If so, how much attenuation?

Are you able to confirm that the CDA-2990 is producing a 10MHz and 1PPS
signal?



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