Hi,

Op 9/29/2017 om 5:54 PM schreef The IESG:
> The IESG has received a request from the Using TLS in Applications WG (uta)
> to consider the following document: - 'Cleartext Considered Obsolete: Use of
> TLS for Email Submission and
>    Access'
>   <draft-ietf-uta-email-deep-09.txt> as Proposed Standard
>
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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> Abstract
>
>
>    This specification outlines current recommendations for use of
>    Transport Layer Security (TLS) to provide confidentiality of email
>    traffic between a mail user agent (MUA) and a mail submission or mail
>    access server.
>

I haven't followed the discussions and I hadn't seen this document until
I saw this last call. But after reading it, I have one question: what
about ManageSieve (RFC5804)? Arguably, it is not a mail submission nor a
mail access protocol, but it would be a service (often) operated along
with those functions. Most notably, ManageSieve currently only supports
STARTTLS and not the implicit TLS prescribed in this document; no
well-known port is assigned for that purpose. Therefore, systems
supporting ManageSieve along with the protocols mentioned would have a
weakness (which could perhaps be used to access the other services as
well). It is unlikely that a ManageSieve client would support implicit
TLS without some IETF specification.

Is that going to be addressed in a separate document?

Regards,

Stephan.

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> The file can be obtained via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-uta-email-deep/
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> IESG discussion can be tracked via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-uta-email-deep/ballot/
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> No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
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