* Frank Ch. Eigler <f...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Ingo Molnar <mi...@elte.hu> writes:
>
> > [...] Since the speed of development in this area is truly glacial
> > at the moment and the practical advantages that i can experience
> > personally (directly as a Linux user and indirectly as a maintainer)
> > are miniscule so far, caution is warranted IMO. [...]
>
> If the "caution" you suggest is operationally equivalent to
> discouraging even miniscule improvements, is it any wonder that
> progress is glacial?
I think you might be mixing up cause and causation ;-)
> The gdbstub prototype was constructed for two reasons: to demonstrate
> utrace usage now, and in the future to be incrementally useful (over
> ptrace, by moving into fast kernel-space operations like
> multithreading control, gdb-tracepoint support, other stuff). #1 is
> about done. With respect to #2, we can certainly commit to ongoing
> work on improvements, provided the community shows interest and
> goodwill.
What i'd like to see is measurable benefits to users, developers and
maintainers. I'd like to see the same for SystemTap too btw.
Ingo
