On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 07:22:51AM -0600, Ross Werner wrote:
> The reason I say (a) is because vi forces you to do it either the right
> way, which requires learning all these fantastic hotkeys, or doing it the
> awful, hard, painful way that involves using but nothing but "i", the
> arrow keys, and backspace. Ouch.
I think the arrow keys should be disabled, so newbies are also forced to
learn the hjkl movement keys! It's painful to see people use the arrow
keys in vi, it's just so much slower.
> Emacs, on the other hand, one can use happily for quite a while without
> knowing hardly any sort of special keys. Hence the learning curve is much
> easier, but you hardly ever get as proficient as you would with vi. And I
> still think vi is a shade quicker simply because it uses "command mode"
> instead of chorded keys.
Well, you could probably toss a newbie in front of Xemacs or the GUI
version of GNU emacs and have them be quite happy. Standard menuless
emacs still stumps newbies, though. And these are the ones who happily
use pico. How come nobody's come to pico's defense yet? ;)
> I bet I can beat any emacs user with even plain vi, much less using vim or
> some other newbie clone. Long live classic vi!
Although vi is pretty darn near perfection in editing in its standard
form, I have to say that I like vim and its goodies. I like syntax
highlighting and autoformatting and that sort of stuff. Yeah, it's a
little emacs-y, but emacs isn't all bad! It's just that vi is BETTER.
--Levi
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