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On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:56:22PM -0700, Stuart Jansen wrote: 
> On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 19:51, Michael Halcrow wrote:
> *Some stuff about encouraging OOS/FS at BYU.
> 
> I fully support you. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
> My one question: is this more appropriate for the UUG or another club?
> It seems more like balancing Devhood that supporting the users of *nix.

Thanks, Stuart. I appreciate your support. But I'm starting to lose my
patience with this whole ``But this is the *UNIX* Users Group!!'' I
feel like, at this point, it is a pointless and counter-productive
argument. It's like this whole list is in collective denial. Everyone,
look around yourselves for a second here...

WE ARE ALL USING *LINUX*, DAMMIT! 

Okay, so Jon is using BSD (which everyone knows is dying anyway ;-),
and there are a couple of Mac OS X guys around (and I'm sure that the
few I missed will be quick to let us all know), and we would never
exclude them from the list just for changing the name (unless they
want to feel excluded), but the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of this list is
comprised of Linux users. It is Linux that is drawing new members to
this list. All the CS majors are exposed to Linux in the labs. The
CAEDM and SPICE guys are installing Debian Linux machines in the labs,
and they are making HP-UX look like Linux with Gnome and what
not. Many on this list are Free Software and Open Source software
advocates. The demographics of this list tips heavily on the side of
Linux. And I feel that keeping ``Linux'' out of our name is causing us
real harm in terms of investigators to the club. People are seeing
``Linux'' on the cover of BusinessWeek Magazine, not ``Unix.''  That
is why a name change is overdue.

``Unix'' is esoteric. It is a bunch of old guys with beards hacking
away on mainframe terminals. ``Linux'' is now mainstream. Open Source
is a much more familiar term than HP-UX. 

We hold Linux Install Fests. We give out and promote Linux and Open
Source software. We have used Tux as our web site mascott. I do not
remember the last time I read a technical question on this list by
someone who wanted to know the answer for use on HP-UX, AIX, Solaris,
etc. The people posting questions are all using Linux. Nearly all the
screenshots on our web site are of Linux window managers. When was the
last time we covered something at a group meeting that didn't work on
Linux? In fact, how often have we even *talked* about operating
systems other than Linux at a group meeting?  Face it: This is the BYU
Linux Users Group. It's time our name reflect our activities and what
our members are actually using.

The argument to maintain ``Unix'' in the name of the group is purely
idealogical. It just feels good to maintain some air of tradition. But
I am not talking about what the list started out as. I am talking now
about what the list has *become*. And I am also looking ahead to see
what the list will be. Some say that ``Linux'' is just a flash in the
pan, and that ``Unix'' is more entrenched and universal, and so we
should keep ``Linux'' out of our name. Frankly, while I appreciate all
that ``Unix'' has done for GNU and Linux, the time is past for paying
lip service to the phenomenon. I feel that ``Unix'' is now a stagnant
dinosaur, and it is becoming largely irrelevant in light of the Open
Source movement and Linux. Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, and all other
proprietary Unices are giving way to Linux. They will *never* ... I
repeat, *NEVER* be able to compete on the same level as Linux (they
will have some niche markets, but they will remain niche, and become
even more niche as time passes), because Linux is Open Source. IBM
executives have labeled Linux as the ``natural successor'' to AIX and
are pumping a BILLION dollars into Linux development. Analysts have
been pointing out how Sun is facing serious competition from Linux,
and it is losing server market share to Linux just as fast as Windows
NT is losing market share to Linux. Even if one of the proprietary
Unices were to open its source, it would not gain significant market
share because attributes of that system design would simply be
incorporated into the Linux kernel. While we can appreciate the
history and culture, the old ``Unix'' as we used to know it is quickly
becoming irrelevant in today's technology trends.

It's time we shed Unix from our name, and shed along with it the image
of a stagnant group of esoteric Unix geebers. We are the BYU Linux
Users Group.

Mike

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