Ranish Partition Manager is a boot manager and hard disk partitioner.
It gives users high level of control for running multiple operating
systems,
such as Windows 98/NT/XP, Linux, FreeDOS, and FreeBSD on a single disk.

I have use this application for several years. It works with Mandrake
very well. The link is:
http://www.ranish.com/part/

You will love it. 

Best regards,

Dyle Joo

ACR International LLC
1875 S. State, Suite 1010
Orem UT 84097
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: All your DVD are belong to us (Steve Meyers)
   2. Re: All your DVD are belong to us (Phillip Hellewell)
   3. Re: All your DVD are belong to us (Michael Torrie)
   4. Can I source .emacs from within emacs? (Walter)
   5. Re: name voting (Evan McNabb)
   6. Re: MS response to Texas OSS Legislation (Jacob Albretsen)
   7. Re: All your DVD are belong to us (Michael Torrie)
   8. Re: All your DVD are belong to us (Soren Harward)
   9. Re: UUG and BYUSA (was: Elections!) (Jacob Albretsen)
  10. Partition cannot be resized (Jacob Albretsen)
  11. Re: Partition cannot be resized (Stuart Jansen)
  12. fonts for gvim (Glen Wagley)
  13. REDHAT 9 (Gabriel & Emily)
  14. Re: Partition cannot be resized (Brian Beck)
  15. Re: REDHAT 9 (Michael Halcrow)
  16. Re: All your DVD are belong to us (Michael Halcrow)

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Message: 1
Subject: Re: [uug] All your DVD are belong to us
To: UUG List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization:
Date: 29 Mar 2003 11:33:12 -0700
From: Steve Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 10:17, Phillip Hellewell wrote:
>       I had absolutely no idea they were already implementing this.  I
> bought a new VCR and brought it home, only to discover that I can no
> longer watch DVDs!  The source of the problem: copy protection.  I
> called the VCR company and they kindly informed me that FCC regulation
> ???? now requires recording media to purposely cause the image to go
> haywire to prevent you from copying copyrighted material.  The
solution:
> "Plug the DVD player directly into your TV" they say.

It's a bug in your VCR.  It should not affect the pass-through, it
should only activate when you try to record.  That's how my VCR works,
anyway.

To remove Macrovision encoding, try one of these:
http://www.birdbrainpress.com/decoder/decoder.htm

Or go to Radio Shack and get an RF Modulator, which will let you hook
your DVD directly to the TV.  I think they're about $20-$30.

Steve


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:22:25 -0700
From: Phillip Hellewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uug] All your DVD are belong to us
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


> 
> It's a bug in your VCR.  It should not affect the pass-through, it
> should only activate when you try to record.  That's how my VCR works,

Aha!  I knew I was missing something.  I think I will return my VCR
promptly and get one that works like yours.

-- 
Phillip Hellewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Message: 3
Subject: Re: [uug] All your DVD are belong to us
From: Michael Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: 
Date: 29 Mar 2003 12:42:00 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 11:33, Steve Meyers wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 10:17, Phillip Hellewell wrote:
> >     I had absolutely no idea they were already implementing this.  I
> > bought a new VCR and brought it home, only to discover that I can no
> > longer watch DVDs!  The source of the problem: copy protection.  I
> > called the VCR company and they kindly informed me that FCC
regulation
> > ???? now requires recording media to purposely cause the image to go
> > haywire to prevent you from copying copyrighted material.  The
solution:
> > "Plug the DVD player directly into your TV" they say.
> 
> It's a bug in your VCR.  It should not affect the pass-through, it
> should only activate when you try to record.  That's how my VCR works,
> anyway.
> 
> To remove Macrovision encoding, try one of these:
> http://www.birdbrainpress.com/decoder/decoder.htm
> 
> Or go to Radio Shack and get an RF Modulator, which will let you hook
> your DVD directly to the TV.  I think they're about $20-$30.

One of the byproducts of using the rf modulator is that it removes
macrovision, I think, so you could plug it into the VCR and record DVDs
on channel 3.




> 
> Steve
> 
> ____________________
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> http://uug.byu.edu/
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:39:28 -0700
From: Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uug] Can I source .emacs from within emacs?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Emacs gurus,

How do I source my .emacs from within emacs?

-- 
        __________________________________
        Walt Johnson    EE-BYU
        phone:  (801) 422-4892
        email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        www.ee.byu.edu/~whj



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:50:02 -0700
From: Evan McNabb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uug] name voting
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 09:31:58AM -0700, Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
> My major never get's mentioned in these discussions but this kind
of=20
> thing is right up our alley. I'm in the IT program, in the School
of=20
> Technology. It's a new major, and to be frank we're kind of
teetering=20
> on the edge of becoming a little bit microsofty. It would be
healthy=20
> to have a club like this be sponsored by one of our faculty. It
would=20
> also be good to have some advocacy going on there. Next time we
have=20
> booths up I'll have to man one in th CTB.

I'm good friends with the School of Technology Director (he worked
with=20
my grandpa at the University of Illinois) so I'll talk to him in the
next
week or so. We'll just have to see what options we have and go from
there.

I've come to the conclusion that the Unix Users Group (or what ever
it might become) have really only two needs:

1) A place for our e-mail/web server
2) A way to get rooms reserved for meetings/installfests

I really am not concerned with who sponsors us as long as a
department=20
can fulfill these requirements. Once again, we'll just have to see how
things work out.

-Evan

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 15:12:40 -0700
From: Jacob Albretsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uug] MS response to Texas OSS Legislation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Quoting Michael Halcrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
 
>  Proposed 
>  legislation in Oregon (House Bill 2892) and Texas (Senate Bill 1579) 
>  seeks to establish a procurement bias for open source software, which

>  would hurt competition and innovation in the software 
>  industry.  
 
Cry me a river.  Bias is one thing that has gone in M$'s favor for years

now.  You can't tell me that companies like Dell and Gateway are not
bias 
toward Micro$oft.  I guess bias is okay as long as it is in your favor. 
 
And innovation?  Whatever.  Everything I have read lately about what the

next windows will have on it I look at it and say... I've been using
that 
option for years.  Apparently, the next windows will have multiple 
desktops (NO WAY!) and a few other things that Linux ALREADY has.  
Innovation?  More like catching up. 
 
"Windows is a 32-bit shell for a 16-bit extension to an 8-bit operating 
system designed for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that can't

stand one bit of competition." 


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Message: 7
Subject: Re: [uug] All your DVD are belong to us
From: Michael Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: 
Date: 29 Mar 2003 15:39:10 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 10:17, Phillip Hellewell wrote:
>       I had absolutely no idea they were already implementing this.  I
> bought a new VCR and brought it home, only to discover that I can no
> longer watch DVDs!  The source of the problem: copy protection.  I
> called the VCR company and they kindly informed me that FCC regulation
> ???? now requires recording media to purposely cause the image to go
> haywire to prevent you from copying copyrighted material.  The
solution:
> "Plug the DVD player directly into your TV" they say.
>       Ok, so I should have seen this coming, but I didn't.  I feel
like I
> am being forced to buy the Windows palladium or something (which I vow
> to NEVER be a part of).  Here are my issues: (does UUG agree?)

Actually macrovision has been on vhs tapes and some tv/cable signals for
years.  Only now it's illegal to even talk about stripping out the
macrovision signal.


> 
>       1. Now I can't watch DVDs because it so happens that I don't
have
> component connectors on my TV, only cable.  The VCR did the converting
> for me.
>       2. What about a valid backup copy?  Aren't I allowed to have a
legal
> backup copy of any digital media?

What rights?  Umm.  No we must do exactly as the MPAA dictates.  They
know best, after all.

Good thing my video capture card can ignore macrovision.

> 
>       Anyway, this really sucks...
> 
> Phillip
-- 
Michael Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 16:42:26 -0700
From: Soren Harward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uug] All your DVD are belong to us
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Michael Torrie wrote:
> Good thing my video capture card can ignore macrovision.

Which card is that?  That looks like an important selling point to me.

-- 
Soren Harward
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Message: 9
From: Jacob Albretsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uug] UUG and BYUSA (was: Elections!)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 16:50:27 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Okay, catching up on some email, I took a count.

Clubs who have issues with / left (and it was a good thing) BYUSA:

1 - Unix Users Group
2 - Magicians Club
3 - Sailing Club
4 - yMac
5 - Other Club Ben Smith is in charge of
6 - Mu Sigma Rho
7 - Country Dance
8 - Every club president anyone has talked to

I think this is a very serious issue.  It's obvious that BYUSA is not=20
achieving what it is supposed to do (okay, maybe it is supposed to be
lik=
e=20
this, you never know).  As an officer last year, I was present when we
tr=
ied=20
to politely address some issues and even offer our assistance with
comput=
er=20
related things that they were backlogged with to show our willingness to
=
work=20
together.  (Did anything ever come of that, or where we just patted on
th=
e=20
back and sent our merry way?)=20

I feel that we were given a crafted speech that changes where being made
=
and=20
things were going to be better.  Nothing that I saw at the bi-weekly I
we=
nt=20
to was really of any use.  It was just more hoops we had to jump and
ways=
=20
they were going to "check up" on us (sounded more like babysitting).
Yes=
=20
that's right, the head that peaks into UUG meetings that looks around
and=
=20
then disappears is probably the BYUSA "checking up" on us to make sure
we=
=20
reserved the right size room for the amount of people there.

With a new University President coming on board, this may open an
opportu=
nity=20
for something to be done.  IMO, we should try to work with the BYUSA and
=
do=20
everything we can before totally getting rid of them and finding=20
alternatives.  But on the other hand, I feel like we have done that
alrea=
dy.

Just my two slips of gold pressed latinum.
--=20
Jacob Albretsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.knine.net/

A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train
stops. On my desk, I have a work station...



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Message: 10
From: Jacob Albretsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 17:30:45 -0700
Subject: [uug] Partition cannot be resized
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am hoping someone can enlighten(ment) me.

My uncle wants Linux / Windows duel boot.  I took Mandrake 9.1 over and
w=
e got=20
to the part where we needed to resize his Windows ME partition.  We
click=
ed=20
the resize button, and waited, and we got an error saying the
partition=20
cannot be resized.   So we did some google-ing and found that if there
is=
=20
data on clusters on both ends of the drive, this can happen.  This was
od=
d=20
because my uncle did a defrag before we started as I suggested.  He did
i=
t=20
with Norton.  So, we fired of the Windows one that never works unless
you=
=20
turn off everything to look at it, and sure enough there was data at the
=
end=20
of the drive.  So, we tried the defrag using the Windows default
program.=
  It=20
moved all the data off then end with the exception of a few clusters
that=
 it=20
claims cannot be moved.  We went back to Mandrake install and came
across=
 the=20
same probelm again.  Any ideas on this one?

If it helps:

WIN98 Fat32 LBA-mapped
Dell Dimension L700CX

BTW, I also did an install for a friend today and resized his drive with
=
NTFS=20
/ Windoze XP.  Worked like a charm.  Three cheers for Mandrake.

--=20
Jacob Albretsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.knine.net/

ADVISORY:
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present=
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location and reappear at any random place in the universe, including
your=
=20
neighbor's domicile. The manufacturer will not be responsible for any
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 17:37:44 -0700
From: Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uug] Partition cannot be resized
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> My uncle wants Linux / Windows duel boot.  I took Mandrake 9.1 over
and w=
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                                 ^^^^

Let us know who wins. ;-)

(Sorry, nothing to contribute. Don't know anything about Windows.)
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Message: 12
From: Glen Wagley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: 
Date: 29 Mar 2003 18:06:09 -0700
Subject: [uug] fonts for gvim
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

sometimes the fonts that are available to gvim kill my eyes after a
while. Can someone suggest a good (as in easy on the eyes) font for
gvim?  I seem to have only a small amount of fonts available for gvim.
-- 
Glen Wagley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Message: 13
From: "Gabriel & Emily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:27:00 -0700
Subject: [uug] REDHAT 9
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

FROM RH's Site:

"Red Hat Linux 9 ISOs will be available to paid subscribers starting
March
31, 2003--a week before they will be available on redhat.com, in stores,
or
on Red Hat FTP"

Anyone have access to RH's servers on the 31st?  It sure would be sweet
to
get them on the UUGs site A.S.A.P.!

Mandrake 9.1 didn't quite do it for me : (

I'm hoping this will be the distro bring a smile back to my laptop.

out - G


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Message: 14
From: Brian Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uug] Partition cannot be resized
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:12:25 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Saturday 29 March 2003 5:37 pm, Stuart Jansen wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 17:30, Jacob Albretsen wrote:
> > I am hoping someone can enlighten(ment) me.
> >
> > My uncle wants Linux / Windows duel boot.  I took Mandrake 9.1 over
> > and we got
>
>                                  ^^^^
>
> Let us know who wins. ;-)
>
> (Sorry, nothing to contribute. Don't know anything about Windows.)
have you tried defraging with winndows defrag instead of norton.

Brian


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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:52:29 -0700
From: Michael Halcrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uug] REDHAT 9
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 06:27:00PM -0700, Gabriel & Emily wrote:
> Anyone have access to RH's servers on the 31st?  It sure would be
sweet to
> get them on the UUGs site A.S.A.P.!

Just don't advertise it on Slashdot ;-)

> Mandrake 9.1 didn't quite do it for me : (

Try Debian. :-P

Mike
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 19:40:09 -0700
From: Michael Halcrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uug] All your DVD are belong to us
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 10:17:40AM -0700, Phillip Hellewell wrote:
>       2. What about a valid backup copy?  Aren't I allowed to have a
legal
> backup copy of any digital media?

Apparently you didn't get the memo. Jack Valenti, the president of the
MPAA, responded to this concern by pointing out that digital is
forever. Therefore, there is no need to make a backup of your digital
movies:

http://www.hpronline.org/news/347207.html?mkey=3D628413

Besides, copying means that you are a pirate. Copying means that you
are a bad person. Copying means that you will go to jail. If, by some
odd chance, something bad happens to your original media, you can just
go to Walmart and buy another copy. You see? It's simple! So there is
really no need to make a backup.

Mike
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