Or, in the case of some of us, got our start on slackware.  Back when you
could fit a decent linux system on a few floppies.

Ahhh... the Net floppy, the Games floppy, all the floppies carefully
downloaded and written to 3.5" with rewrite, and carefully rewritten when a
sector on one of the floppies was bad.

Yes, I got my start on slackware, and proud of it.

William

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Bryan Murdock
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 3:27 PM
> To: BYU Unix Users Group
> Subject: Re: responding to more Halcrow Debian Bigotry, was Re: [uug]
> snort on redhat 9
> 
> I mean uh, I know I'm an electrical engineer, and most of my buddies are
> too, but we all picked up Caldera, or RedHat, or Manrake (or Debian for
> an unlucky few) and just installed it ourselves the first time.  It
> didn't work totally flawlessly (but pretty well) and that's how I ended
> up here eventually.  I guess for mere mortals a guru is needed for the
> first Linux experience and if the guru likes Debian then more power to
> him, the newbie won't know the difference after intstall :)  Honestly
> though, if it weren't for some fairly intuitive GUIs from the above
> mentioned distros, us EE's who think computers should obey us just
> because we know Ohm's law and Maxwell's Equations would have been
> totally hopeless.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 09:44, Hans Fugal wrote:
> > > P.S. Honestly, I do think that is pretty cool that you can do that,
> and
> > > I'm sure it would be educational and fun.  Just don't recommend
> > > installing Debian to newbies like Michael Halcrow always half jokingly
> > > does.  I've seen two different first timers get their intro. to Linux
> > > with Debian and both were turned away.  One recovered about a year
> later
> > > and now he has redhat on like three computers at home.  The other is
> > > still recovering, and he looks at me with this underserved awe
> whenever
> > > I mention that I use Linux.  It doesn't have to be that hard man, it
> > > really doesn't.
> > Two points.
> >
> > One: yes, you're right. The installer is one aspect of debian being
> > heavily worked on as we speak.
> >
> > Two: How many linux users get started installing their own distribution
> > anyway? A significant number, sure, but not the majority. Usually
> > someone else installs or at least helps to install. In that situation I
> > would recommend Debian for newbies simply because although it is not
> > easy to install it is much easier to admin. Just make sure you get all
> > the basic major things they need installed and configured (e.g. samba)
> > before leaving them to it. I've done just this and the people I've set
> > up with debian have fewer troubles than the ones I set up with redhat.
> 
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