Yo,

I reinstalled Mandrake 9.1 recently to my web server. It works fine
except the ping and ssh problem. When I ping to the ip address of other
machine in my office, it says "no route to host". From the other
machine, I can ping to the web server with its domain name, but it fails
to ping to its ip address. Thus SSH doesn't work too.

Do you have any advice?

Best regards,
 
Dyle Joo
 
ACR International LLC
384 W Center St. 
Orem, UT 84057 
United states 

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   1. Re: html question - form without "submit," us drop-menu
      (Andrew Jorgensen)
   2. Re: INBOX namesace (was Re: IMAP server (was :IMAP Server
      setup/testing)) (Andrew Jorgensen)
   3. Re: html question - form without "submit," us drop-menu
      (Nick Goehring)
   4. Re: html question - form without "submit," us drop-menu
      (Grant Robinson)
   5. Re: time issues (Was: [uug] mouse button mayhem update)
      (James Nickerson)
   6. Re: time issues (Was: [uug] mouse button mayhem update)
      (James Nickerson)
   7. Re: html question - form without "submit," us drop-menu
      (Nick Goehring)
   8. Re: help, I've had to switch distros and keep the same home
      dir (James Nickerson)
   9. Re: html question - form without "submit," us drop-menu
      (Danelle Brown)
  10. Re: time issues (Was: [uug] mouse button mayhem update)
      (Andrew Jorgensen)
  11. Re: help, I've had to switch distros and keep the same home
      dir (Andrew Jorgensen)
  12. Re: IMAP server was :IMAP Server setup/testing
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  13. Re: html question - form without "submit," us drop-menu
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:48:15 -0600
From: Andrew Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uug] html question - form without "submit," us drop-menu
To: BYU Unix Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Weel, aint that a sumbit. <p-too> <ping!>.

Wade Preston Shearer wrote:

> AHHHHH!!!! no wonder it wasn't freak'in working!!!
> 
> i poured over the code again and again and again... even copied your 
> example exactly... and even copied the example from the URL you sent
and 
> it STILL DIDN'T WORK!!!
> 
> i finally noticed that i was spelling submit, "sumbit"
> 
> errrrrrr!!!!
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 05:28  PM, Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
> 
>> No, the fuction is implicit. It exists already.
>>
>> <form method="post" action="/form.php">
>>    <select name="dropbox" onchange="submit()">
>>       <option selected>Select Something!</option>
>>       <option value="SOMETHING">Something</option>
>>       <option value="ELSE">Something Else</option>
>>    </select>
>> </form>
>>
>> Wade Preston Shearer wrote:
>>
>>> i assume that to use that i will need a javascript function in the 
>>> header called "submit()"?
>>> if yes, what do you put in the function that submits the form?
>>> On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 05:10  PM, Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
>>>
>>>> onchange="submit()"
>>>>
>>>> Wade Preston Shearer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i have friend that asked me a question that i can't answer... i 
>>>>> have been googling without any results...
>>>>> he wants to make a form without a submit button... the form will
be 
>>>>> submitted when the user selects something from a dropmenu. the
only 
>>>>> languages that can be used are HTML and javascript... and it all 
>>>>> has to happen client-side.
>>>>> anyone have any ideas?
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:50:47 -0600
From: Andrew Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uug] INBOX namesace (was Re: IMAP server (was :IMAP
        Server  setup/testing))
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Andrew Jorgensen wrote:

> Soren Harward wrote:
> 
>> On Wed 11 Jun 2003 at 13:00:10, Andrew Jorgensen said:
>>
>>> Well, it's just a niggle really. Mozilla Mail wants to make it's 
>>> "Sent" folder as "Sent" not "INBOX\Sent", same with other folders. I

>>> have to manually tell it that they go under INBOX.
>>
>>
>>
>> I found that as long as I set "Personal namespace" to "INBOX."
>> (*including* the double quotes) in
>>
>> Mail Account Preferences -> Server Settings -> Advanced
>>
>> it works just fine.  In fact, I have to set that to be able to
>> write anything to any mailbox.
>>
> Mozilla picks up that setting from the server, but it doesn't solve
the 
> problem. If I don't already have a "Sent" folder it can't create one 
> when it wants to because it tries to create "Sent" instead of 
> "INBOX.Sent" which returns an error about an invalid folder name. Once

> the folder is created it works fine.

Just downloaded Mozilla 1.4rc1 and this problem has been partially 
fixed. I still don't think it's nice to force me to make all of my 
folders a subfolder of INBOX. I'd rather be free to do it however I
like.



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:54:09 -0600
From: Nick Goehring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uug] html question - form without "submit," us drop-menu
To: BYU Unix Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Spoken like a true programmer!

"An epiphany has just struck my brain..."
                   ---- Mr. Smee ----

On Wednesday, Jun 11, 2003, at 17:42 US/Mountain, Wade Preston Shearer 
wrote:

> i finally noticed that i was spelling submit, "sumbit"
>
> errrrrrr!!!!



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:06:44 -0600
From: Grant Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uug] html question - form without "submit," us drop-menu
To: BYU Unix Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 05:54  PM, Nick Goehring wrote:

> Spoken like a true programmer!
>
> "An epiphany has just struck my brain..."
>                   ---- Mr. Smee ----

The quote is actually:
"I've had an apostrophe.  Lightning has just struck my brain.."

Caption Hook's interjections are not shown. :)

Grant



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:40:12 -0600
From: James Nickerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: time issues (Was: [uug] mouse button mayhem update)
To: BYU Unix Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> NTP keeps in touch with time servers like time.nist.gov on more or
less 
> a constant basis, it uses the data it gets back to not only set your 
> clock, but fine-tune it so it runs at the right speed. Rather than 
> running every day or so it stays connected as much as possible. It
runs 
> as a service, not a cron-job.

        Is that really a better thing?  That means it's hogging it's
small share of 
bandwidth, which probably isn't significant, but enough little things
would 
add up.  I'm probably not thinking about it right, but it really does
seem to 
me like you'd take some sort of efficiency hit.

 -James


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:42:17 -0600
From: James Nickerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: time issues (Was: [uug] mouse button mayhem update)
To: BYU Unix Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> NTP shouldn't stress your network or other servers if you set it up as
it
> was designed to.  Initially ntpd connects every 30 minutes or so, but
as
> time goes on and the clock skew is calculated more accurately, then it
> connects less often.  I used to use ntpd all the time even on a modem.
It

        How do I make it do that instead of just regularly checking
forever?
 -James


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:47:17 -0600
From: Nick Goehring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uug] html question - form without "submit," us drop-menu
To: BYU Unix Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Thanks for the clarification Grant,

I haven't seen that movie since before my mission so my mind is a 
little foggy itself.  :)

Nick
On Wednesday, Jun 11, 2003, at 18:06 US/Mountain, Grant Robinson wrote:

>
> On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 05:54  PM, Nick Goehring wrote:
>
>> Spoken like a true programmer!
>>
>> "An epiphany has just struck my brain..."
>>                   ---- Mr. Smee ----
>
> The quote is actually:
> "I've had an apostrophe.  Lightning has just struck my brain.."
>
> Caption Hook's interjections are not shown. :)
>
> Grant
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 19:00:39 -0600
From: James Nickerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uug] help, I've had to switch distros and keep the same
        home dir
To: BYU Unix Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Honestly, now that I'm playing with RedHat I don't know why we
recommend
> it to newbies over Mandrake...Mandrake has way better configuration
GUI
> tools that are pretty intuitive and easy for a beginner.  Way better.
> It's easy to install, it's well supported out there on the web (plf,

        It really is.  I've gone through a couple different versions of
Red Hat that 
insisted on fighting with me at length before grudgingly agreeing to use
my 
sound card and printer (and admittedly there were a few less severe
issues 
with an older version of Mandrake), but Mandrake 9.1 actually set up
alsa 
correctly out of the box to work PERFECTLY with my sound card, and my
printer 
as well. 

        I used to be die hard about apt-get, but I'm starting to lean
towards urpmi.  
It just seems to be accomplishing my purposes a little more fully, with
a 
little less headache.  There are some great repositories, including
those 
lovely plf ones.  

        -James Nickerson




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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 21:11:07 -0400
From: "Danelle Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uug] html question - form without "submit," us drop-menu
To: "BYU Unix Users Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Wade Preston Shearer wrote:

> AHHHHH!!!! no wonder it wasn't freak'in working!!!
> 
> i poured over the code again and again and again... even copied your 
> example exactly... and even copied the example from the URL you sent
and 
> it STILL DIDN'T WORK!!!
> 
> i finally noticed that i was spelling submit, "sumbit"
> 
> errrrrrr!!!!

Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE !!!

-Danelle  ;D
(Didja know the main page of hr is titled "Trapper Keeper!!"?  No wonder
it appeals to our generation.)


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 20:38:27 -0600
From: Andrew Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: time issues (Was: [uug] mouse button mayhem update)
To: BYU Unix Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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James Nickerson wrote:
>>NTP shouldn't stress your network or other servers if you set it up as
it
>>was designed to.  Initially ntpd connects every 30 minutes or so, but
as
>>time goes on and the clock skew is calculated more accurately, then it
>>connects less often.  I used to use ntpd all the time even on a modem.
It
> 
> 
>       How do I make it do that instead of just regularly checking
forever?
>  -James

It just ignores the fact that it can't make a connection and waits 
patiently until it can.

The very small bit of bandwidth that it takes up is totally 
insignificant next to the fact that your clock is exactly right both in 
the time is has and the time it keeps. This is actually important for 
things like kerberos and sometimes SSL.

On a related note, my PowerPC (running Debian) has a really messed up 
clock. Try as ntp might it can't seem to keep it straight. I've heard 
rumors that there's a kernel patch for it, but I'm lazy. The nice part 
is that it stays pretty close, which it really couldn't without NTP. 
Computer clocks aren't made in switzerland. Okay, maybe some are.



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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 20:42:16 -0600
From: Andrew Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uug] help, I've had to switch distros and keep the same
        home dir
To: BYU Unix Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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James Nickerson wrote:
> but Mandrake 9.1 actually set up alsa correctly out of the box

In so many cases that isn't a good thing. I can't tell you how 
frustrating it is to struggle with an aparently flaky machine only to 
find out that it's ALSA, again.

Seriously half the time I've seen hardware trouble on a mandrake box 
it's actually just alsa. Removing it always does the trick.



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 20:52:16 -0600 (MDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uug] IMAP server was :IMAP Server setup/testing
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I don't know if Mark is asking the same thing or not but what I'm 
looking for is the ability to use multiple (mostly Pine and 
Mozilla) email interchangeably but once I use Mozilla to read my 
email Pine no longer works (to get the old stuff).  Mozilla moves 
it all to it's own directory and does who knows what to it.

Anyone have any fixes for that?

Brad


On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Mark Gardner wrote:

> Now for me to get something Very Useful out of all of this is.  What I
> want is A IMAP client that will allow me to have messages and folders
in
> the same dir.  What IMAP should I use? The options from what I
> understand are wu-imap, cyrus-imap, courier-imap.  And the next
question
> is where can I get RPMs for RH9.
> Thank you all again for all you help
> Mark Gardner
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 02:53:31 -0600
From: Grant Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uug] html question - form without "submit," us drop-menu
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On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 06:47  PM, Nick Goehring wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification Grant,

No problem. :)

>
> I haven't seen that movie since before my mission so my mind is a 
> little foggy itself.  :)
>
> Nick

One of the few things that my brain seems to latch onto and not let go 
of is movie quotes.  If only I could remember my CS classes as well... 
:)

Grant



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