On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 18:42, Michael Torrie wrote: > I must say I was surprised how much traffic has been generated here and > other places (say slashdot) over RedHat's move to spin RHL off and > create the Fedora project. People are saying things, like "time to > reevaluate Suse," or "time to go back to debian." While Suse and Debian > have merit on their own, I have to ask why are you saying such things > and expressing horror over redhat's move? Many on slashdot are whining > about not being able to use redhat for free on their servers any more. > Clearly there are some things I'm either missing here, or everyone who > is saying such things is just misinformed. The Fedora project makes RHL > more debian-like than ever before. How is this a bad thing? Most of us > on this list have never needed the kind of tech support that RedHat > sells and as such we won't be impacted at all. Fedora is simply RH10 to > us. > > When the time comes, I'll run Fedora on my servers. Why not? There's > no reason at all not to. Fedora goes through almost the same Q/A as > Redhat put RHL through before. Besides, the stable fedora stuff becomes > RHEL, and I can always download RHEL packages for things like samba, > nfs, and the kernel. Running Fedora on a server is no more unstable or > outrageous than running Debian. Redhat is still going to pour money > into their free Fedora distro; after all Fedora is the feeder tree for > RHEL. > > In short, I don't get what we've lost generally. Sure if I want support > I'll have to pay for RHEL, but then that would have been what I would > have done anyway.
I agree with everything you say here, but at work we use RedHat 8 because our software vendors who sell us our ASIC design tools all say they only support their software on RedHat 8. Now all of a sudden RH8 has and end of life on Dec. 31. Are all our vendors going to hurry and switch to supporting Fedora? Is everyone going to start rolling their own RH 8 rpms for whatever security updates are needed? Do we and all our vendors need to hurry and swith to RH Advanced Server (or whatever it's called now)? I read an article on the Register that was basically saying, that's fine if you want to end-of-life all your free desktop offerings Redhat, but give us little warning first, and I have to agree with that sentiment. This coupled with broad statements from the CEO of RH recommending we all just go use windows, Linux isn't ready, makes us all a little upset with good ol' Matthew Szulik. > One final trolling remark: If I was a corporate SuSE user, I would be > getting a bit nervous about now. Novell has managed to kill or squander > everything it has ever purchased: DR-DOS, Wordperfect, Unix System > Laboratories (of if they hadn't sold anything to SCO), to name 3 > companies/products. I think Novell finally "gets it," though, so I > think things may be okay for SuSE and Ximian. And haven't all the exec's that were at Novell in those days moved over to SCO? I don't know, but it seems like I've heard that. Personally I've been surprised to learn through all this that Novell is actually still a fairly successful company, obviously they've got some cash in the bank. Hopefully this indicates they know how to do something right. Bryan ____________________ BYU Unix Users Group http://uug.byu.edu/ ___________________________________________________________________ List Info: http://uug.byu.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uug-list
