On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 12:38, Ross Werner wrote:
> Just pretend you've been using (the Unix-based) Mac OS X too much lately.
> A much more forgiveable sin ;-)

Actually right now the Open Group is all up in arms over Apple's use of
the "Unix" trademark in describing their OS as "Unix-based" and being a
"Unix" operating system. They have asked Apple to either stop referring
to their OS as such or to get certified that they meet posix and unix98
standards (which they currently don't).

By the way, OS X is not actually Unix-based.  The kernel is a mach-based
kernel that runs a BSD/pseudo posix personality layer on top, which is
used by most userland code.  However Quartz and many other subsystems
actually make direct calls into the underlying API as well as calling
the BSD subsystem.  It's a bit complex to diagram out, let alone
understand.  (The kernel is called xnu, the display mechanism is called
quartz, the display apis are called cocoa, carbon, and something else,
etc.)  So OS X is not truly UNIX and that does become apparent at times
when I'm trying to work with my servers and want them to do a certain
thing a certain way.  Oh well.

Hmm.  If cygwin were able to be 100% posix compliant and met the unix98
standards, would that then allow windows to be called unix?  Imagine
MS's mixed-up fud campaign then:  Unix is old and outdated; Use Windows
XPP (extra precious paint) instead.  We're secure and reliable because
Windows is Unix.  Oh the pain.

Michael


> 
>   ~ ross
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Michael Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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