I don't think my comment regarding bandwidth was understood correctly.
It does not matter what type of streaming audio you are doing, bandwidth
will be consumed. 
BYU complained to me that their Real Audio feed for KBYU was sucking up
lots of bandwidth. I only suggested they also provide an Ogg Vorbis
stream so Linux users could tune in easily. But they said they were
maxed out.
Icecast also eats up a lot of our bandwidth doing Ogg and MP3 streaming.
The Real Audio stream is parsed out to Real Networks. Listeners connect
to the Real Network sites. Then it is their bandwidth that is sucked
dry.
My comment then was not about bandwidth, per se, (though that is greatly
affected by how many users we have listening) but only that both KSL and
BYU see a fair chunk of it go to streaming purposes.
KJ


On Mon, 2004-01-05 at 09:29, Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-01-05 at 07:43, Soren Harward wrote:
> > On Sun 04 Jan 2004 at 20:20:39, Kerry Cox said:
> > > I tried to talk BYU in using icecast, but they are sticking with Real.
> > > Their complaint (as is ours) is that it quickly sucks up the
> > > bandwidth. Thank goodness for our OC3.
> > 
> > And Real and/or WMP (which BYU is also using) don't suck bandwidth?  How
> > does the format have anything to do with bandwidth?  My observation has
> > been that OGG sounds better at lower bitrates than does Real or WMP
> > (which sound like you're playing the sound underwater in an aquarium),
> > which would make it a *better* choice.
> 
> I dunno, I've listened to some Real streams that sound at least as good
> as vorbis, maybe better, at the same bitrate. But the point here, or
> course, is that it's about bitrates and how good stuff sounds at the
> desired bitrate.
> 
> The only factor I can think of is that since icecast is based on HTTP
> there may be status messages and other overhead.
> 
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