My favorite line from the "reading assignment":

>The central paradox of women and Linux is this: often, the >people most anxious for 
>more women in Linux are also the >people most likely to accidentally drive them away.

hee hee hee, SO true... (shakes head and smirks)

Just two days ago, Soren Harward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> remarked to the prestigious BYU 
Unix Users Group... 

>what [does] it [feel] like to be a woman in a male-dominated field?

I dunno.  Astronomy's about 50/50.  ;)

Alright, well, 50/50 in undergrad program, more like 75/25 now... but by far, the best 
ratio of the physical sciences, 

....(hidden motives)....

and Linux users are welcomed with open arms to data-reduce and write scripts and play 
around on Mandrake, so "Come on Down, if the price is right," and you'll see some 
womenfolk yet.  And you get to hang out with them ALL NIGHT LONG!  BYU approved!  (But 
maybe you'll want to kill them by the morning, when they've messed up your flats and 
zeros with the CCD camera.)

...Hee hee, it just occurred to me that you sound like the Ents, looking for their 
Entish women...  
 
>
>When this thread started, I was hoping that you or Danelle (you still
>around, D?)

Yo Big S, I still be here.  Just lagging in the e-mails, as usual...

>on this.  I had actually read this HOWTO soon after it came out, and
>consciously tried to keep it in mind, not just in a UUG context, but
>since I'm a biochem major, in a larger women-in-technical-fields
>context.  However, not being an expert in women's feelings and thought
>processes, I was stuck in a nasty dilemma not being sure that the
>opinions expressed in the HOWTO were generally applicable, and not
>feeling confident enough to go ask a bunch of women to read 

I have many thoughts on this topic, but I'll spare you, and myself... and I've tried 
to recruit girls and my friends, but everyone just thinks I'm a crazy hippie, 
ESPECIALLY my family.  My brother thinks you've all BRAINWASHED me.  But he's wrong, 
oh so wrong...

Hmmm, well, see, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink... so you 
can tell people about Linux's ability to r0x0r, but, as we've all learned in Amer. 
Her., if people don't have self-interest in something, they don't care much for it.  
And since many girls at BYU are more interested in preparing to become trophywives, 
the community is at a loss.

But I digress...  

>Now if someone would just write a
>Understand-Women-In-Other-Social-Contexts-Besides-LUGs-HOWTO, I'd be
>set.

Now there's an idea.

I gotta get a good night's rest.  I'm helping with an Astronomy Outreach tomorrow and 
I'm running one of the scopes.  Don't want to be a klutz and knock it over...

HAPPY YEAR OF THE MONKEY!  I'm a MONKEY!  It's my year!  (Provided I can live through 
it.)
http://www.google.com/
(monkey pic on google today.)

-Danelle

P.S. My point: Figure out how to get womens' self interest into Linux.  I think the 
iPod music ads have been advertising soley to women, with the bilboard silhouette 
campaign and all (if you live in a big city).  It's sneaky and shady, but it works...  
;D



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