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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Harley J Pig wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 11:38:48AM -0600, Elizabeth Sorenson wrote:
> > At some point in many discussions like this, it is of value for those of
> > us who have stood on the sidelines to speak up for what we believe.
> ...
> > Problems arise when people from one category don't realize that there are 
> > people from the other categories involved.  And people may be involved who 
> ...
> > posted.  Until now, that would be me.  Keep such people in mind.  Sure it 
> > is intellectually stimulating to discuss what color the grass is in the 
> > Celestial Kingdom, but if you never mention that you believe the Celestial 
> > Kingdom is real and why you believe that, then others cannot relate to the 
> > discussion with an understanding of your foundation.
> > 
> > For those who wish to continue to discuss such interesting theological
> > issues, I believe it would help if you could give us a taste of what you
> > believe, whatever beliefs you may have.  How I may choose to contribute to
> > a discussion, whether it is about religion or computers, depends
> > significantly on the background of the people involved.  Not that the
> > truth of what I believe changes, but how I present it may vary.
> 
> Oil upon the waters.  Maybe. :>
> 
> Good points.  I know people disagree with me, but I'm a very open person.
> I don't care who know what I think or believe, or even what I'm doing.  If
> I'm not interested in a topic, or hate it or think it shouldn't be discussed
> I ignore it.
> 
> I have a very strong testimony of the fundamentals of the gospel.  Take the 6
> discussions and you have my core beliefs.  Anything else is just icing on the
> cake.  Marinade for the meat.  Yin to the Yang (or Yang to the Yin).  That
> doesn't mean it's unnecessary.  To the contrary, its very necessary.  The only
> thing we take with us is the knowledge and skills we garner here. So it's very
> important that not only do we learn as much as we can, we learn how to question
> everything.
> 
> I know that's not exactly what you meant, but with me you never get exactly
> what you wanted. :>
> 
> Alan
> 

I like your analogy.  I think discussing frosting is hard for people who
don't have the cake yet.  Or sometimes we assume everyone has a chocolate
cake, so we discuss chocolate frosting not realizing how uncomfortable
that makes the carrot cake people feel.

It isn't really reasonable on a list list this to ask *everyone* to 
declare their cake type, but I do think it helps if at least the people 
discussing the issue do.  And that also helps anyone who does not have an 
lds cake understand that the frosting is not the core gospel, should they 
ever be interested in learning more.

I appreciate your declaration of what you believe.  Thank you.

Elizabeth

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Elizabeth Sorenson
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