As I understand it, there were too many people graduating in CS not
understanding pointers, and being thoroughly deficient in their
understanding of pointer syntax.  Since CS240 is the only class where the
curriculum lends itself to being able to force that type of experience on
people, they did it there.

CS235, at least at this point, requires (no alternative, not even begging
the professor) you to do the data structures labs in Java, that's one
feature that you don't get.

William Page

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Harshwardhan Nagaonkar
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 9:00 PM
> To: BYU Unix Users Group
> Subject: Re: [uug] BYU CS 400-level classes & Linux distros
> 
> Ross Werner wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Erin Sharmahd wrote (on behalf of anonymous):
> >
> >> Chris is probably at a pretty high level in his CS classes, and I have
> >> only completed 235.  But, we started using more templates in that
> >> class than had been used previously, and I know that I don't feel like
> >> I learned as much as I could have, if I had been forced to do it from
> >> scratch.
> >
> >
> > The email from anonymous is basically exactly what I wanted to say. I
> > did want to make another distinction, however:
> >
> > Well-contained and well-documented libraries and tools vs. templates.
> <snip/>
> 
> [Since this has turned into a frustration and gripes thread anyway :)]
> 
> On an unrelated note, in CS240 we were restricted from using _ANY_ STL
> libraries or any external libraries. I have no problem with not using
> external libs, but not the STL???? We coded up most of the stuff in the
> STL using Java back in cs235; so we learned how it all works. Now why
> should we have to code it back up... that to me is a waste of everyone's
> time. And to make me even more frustrated, I happen to know someone who
> just used PCRE-lib and he was never penalized! Talk about having to jump
> over hoops while others take the plane ride over.
> 
> --
> Harshwardhan Nagaonkar
> Electrical Engineering Sysop
> Brigham Young University - 84602
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