>From what I can tell it looks like the $7 is for media only (for those
of you who still use dial-up).  Nothing on the ELMS site indicates
that a license will be sent with the disc.  This is why I asked.  $7
for a license which (according to the EULA) is transferable at least
once is too good to be true (and hence, isn't).  So long as I require
that the buyer prove he's a student I could ebay these at a huge
profit.  This is why I suspected that it either wasn't legal or wasn't
true.

I don't suppose you've ever ordered a $7 license, have you?

On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 10:01:13 -0600, David Darrough
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes. You are basically correct, assuming you meet the requirements listed on
> the site - namely you are taking at least one CS class. You can download for
> free the software on the list but if you register for MSDNAA, you can
> purchase Win XP, Visio and Project discs and licenses for around $7 each and
> Visual Studio .Net 2003 for around $13. It is basically for the reasons
> others have stated - to get you using their software - although I wouldn't
> have added the evil overtones that some have! There is no "room" on campus
> where you can go, it is all online, but it is a legitimate site sponsored by
> Microsoft and BYU to allow students to purchase Microsoft software
> inexpensively.
> 
> The licenses are Academic, but it states clearly on the website that once
> purchased or downloaded, you can continue to use them for as long as you
> would like - just not commercially, ie., you can't create a program you will
> sell with them but it is fine to use them for personal use/learning for the
> rest of your life, if you wish. See the "New FAQs" section.
> 
> The point isn't to pay for and take a class just to get cheap software. That
> would be expensive. The idea is to allow students taking CS courses the
> ability to purchase the software cheaper. So come over to the dark side of
> the force, Luke....and remember, "Who's your daddy....who's your daddy?!"
> Answer - Bill Gates! :)
> 
> Note: To get to the software CD purchase section, do the following:
> 1. Click on http://www.acm.byu.edu/index.php?page=msdnaa to go to the BYU
> MSDNAA site.
> 2. Click on or go to the section "Steps to Get Software" and follow the
> instructions. You must register in order to download or buy software and it
> takes a few days for BYU to verify you are taking a class.
> 3. In the "Steps to Get Software" section, item number 2, click on the "Our
> ELMS site is here" link.
> 4. Click on the blue "Software" link near the top
> 5. This page lists all of the software you can download and if you click on
> the big "New Order CD's! Click Here" link on the left side of the page you
> will be taken to the purchase area which shows pricing, etc. Remember, you
> won't be able to purchase software until you have registered.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Jorgensen
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:29 AM
> To: BYU Unix Users Group
> Subject: Re: [uug] OT - Windows 2000
> 
> Perhaps you've all misunderstood me, I know that the MSDNAA is above
> board, it's the $7 I'm asking about.  MSDNAA is free (to the student)
> if you're taking at least 1 credit of CS/IT/EE/IS classes (so it's not
> free, it costs whatever that credit costs, not even that good a deal
> really).  What you said implies that I can be a performing arts major,
> walk into some room, slap down $7 bucks and walk out with cheap (in
> every way) software.  Is this legal?
> 
> On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 22:12:12 -0600, Scott K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Oh it's quite legal because Microsoft wants you programming for Windows
> > using their programs, so they give them away to students who will then
> > only know how to program for their platforms and propagate the M$
> > empire. It's like giving away drugs to get people hooked. But hey, if
> > it's free. . .
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
> >
> > >So, what's this about purchasing a disc (and license) for $7?  I can't
> > >find anything about that on your site and it doesn't sound legal.
> > >
> > >On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 04:21:27 -0600, David Darrough
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I just gave away my last legit copy of 2000 but if you can talk her into
> XP,
> > >>you can purchase the disc and a license through MSDNAA for like $7 as
> well
> > >>as other Microsoft software cheap. You can read the requirements but
> > >>basically you have to currently be taking at least one CS class. Here is
> the
> > >>address:
> > >>
> > >>http://www.acm.byu.edu/index.php?page=msdnaa
> > >>
> > >>
> >
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