On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 17:00 -0800, Bryan Murdock wrote:
> I just upgraded my RHEL 3 box to Fedora Core 3 because of these issues
> you are talking about (shhh, don't tell the management or
> IT-support!).  RHEL's "support" is rather lame.  You can go to the
> redhat network and download rpms from there (you have a login,
> right?), but there seems to be no dependancy resolving or anything
> nice like that.  I think there is some sort of gui desktop interface
> to rhn that'll take care of that, but I could never find it.  I called
> into their tech support a couple times and it left something to be
> desired.  Sorry for the good news.

RHEL has a very narrow purpose.  If you're looking for extra packages
and fancy graphical tools, then you've picked the wrong distro.  RHEL
runs very well doing the thing it was intended to do: be a server.  The
package choices are narrow and conservative by design.  RHEL will only
ship packages that have passed a certain QA process.  So you won't have
the latest PHP, for example.  Sounds like you're looking for more of a
desktop distro with some server capabilities thrown in for good measure.
FC 3 would be the more appropriate choice.

Dag Wieers does produce a wide range of third party software for RHEL
(including apt-rpm).

up2date does indeed do dependency resolution.  If you wish to install
any package (that's in the official RHEL package list), just do "up2date
install package."  Any dependencies are automatically downloaded and
installed.  The problem is that there are few 3rd party packages in
RedHat's up2date repository.  For what I use RHEL for (web servers, mail
servers, file servers, ldap servers), RHEL is a slick, stable, and
polished distro that's guaranteed to have security updates for another 4
years or so.

I would never run RHEL (or any of the free versions of it like CentOS or
WhiteBox) as a desktop OS.

> 
> Oh, I should point out that up2date never did hose things up on RHEL
> like I experienced with fedora core 3, so there was that nice way to
> stay, well, up to date.  It's just installing anything new that was a
> pain.

update on FC has problems.  Use yum directly.

I still get a kick out of FC3 correctly detecting all my usb storage
devices and popping up an icon in nautilus for each one.  Just like OS
X! :)  By the way I just finished a manual update (commandline rpm and
apt) from FC 1 to FC 3.  I don't recommend this path, but it does work
with a few caveats (treatment of rpm, for example)

Michael


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