On 9/11/05, Erin Sharmahd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > /me points at Locke's social contract.
I'm having difficulty seeing how BYU constitutes a society defined by Locke's social contract, for the social contract, but I'll give you the benefit of the debate. > To join any society, one must give up some rights. While it's not > always fun to give up rights, you make a decision as to whether you'd > rather be in that society, or have those rights. Again, is BYU really a society in the proper sense? At least not in the context at hand. As far as I know BYU policymakers are not elected by BYU students. > When you give up a right to join a community, you no longer have that > right until you leave the community. If there is a reason why you are > prohibited from leaving the community (examples in many countries of > the world, most notably North Korea), then you have every reason to > complain about being unfairly treated, or having rights taken away > from you. If you have the rights/ability to leave the community, and > yet you stay, then you must be willing to accept the limitation of > rights. True on all points, but it seems like you are comparing two things that aren't really comparable. > There is always the option to try to change the current system, > however you have to realize that you do not have a *right* to whatever > you are trying to get. After having reread the thread, I'm having difficulty understanding what you mean here, and it sounds like you are contradicting yourself. Isn't "try[ing] to change the current system" what Jason is alluding to, though not directly since he seems not to be an over-political sort of person. "Right" as in exercizing your oversight of the "government" because, after all the government is ultimately accountable to the people? To me this seems to be the key element of Locke's proposal, and I'm having difficulty understanding how you can apply it to a university environment. Even in a non private school, the administrators are not answerable to the students as constituents, but rather to a distant board of regents. > just my 2 pence Thanks. With the exchange rate very favorable to the pound, that makes about $0.04. Justin -- Wir müssen wissen. Wir werden wissen. -------------------- BYU Unix Users Group http://uug.byu.edu/ The opinions expressed in this message are the responsibility of their author. They are not endorsed by BYU, the BYU CS Department or BYU-UUG. ___________________________________________________________________ List Info: http://uug.byu.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uug-list
