I just ordered a 1250lb ATV/bike lift lift from Harbor freight, looks like they either offer free shipping or failed to bill me shipping. Either way, this looks like a good alternative to the old jackstand for lifting my max up. When changing out my swingarm a few weeks back, I had to remove my PCW exhaust system and floorjack my max using the spot on my frame where my old centerstand tab use to be - this was a pain in the @ss! http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/taf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=40381 My total came to $164.46, delivered to Utah... Cory F. ............................................. To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .............................................