Charles, sadly it seems that the REAL hot system is the nissin calipers with the zx11 or similar master. steve >From: "wforest@arrakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: V-MAX TECH LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: R1 brakes >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:01:48 +0200 > >Same feeling same mod. I never expected R1 caliper pistons to have less >working area, have not checked, just followed other v-max owners comments. >I >fully agree that right now the brake feels harder but it is also harder to >brake. I was blaming the already worn pads, but now I think differently. My >one finger braking has turned to a full hand grab. the only thing I have to >agree is that I can lock the front wheel at any speed with a handful on the >lever. Sorry to say I never tried it with the stock calipers. never checked >difference in piston dia., but that is the main thing. > >I agree the R1 calipers look cool, but I'm looking for cool braking, not >cool looks.......... >What a s**t. I'm happy to say they cost little, but still, what a >s**t......... > >Best regards, Charles ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) >----- Original Message ----- >From: Thomas Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: V-MAX TECH LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:25 PM >Subject: Re: R1 brakes > > > > Sam, > > It will take more lever force to get the same pressure with a larger > > diameter MC but it will move more fluid volume. The R-1's need the >higher > > pressure because there pistons are considerably smaller than stock. >With > > the stock pistons the area that the hydraulic pressure is applied is >larger > > so not as much pressure is needed to do the job. I am finding it much > > harder to get the bike stopped, much more lever pressure. Two fingers >use > > to be easy, now I find myself wanting to use my whole hand. Like two > > fingers much more. If a whole setup MC and calipers can be adapted I >think > > it will work much better. > > > > How much actual braking ability did you gain by switching to HH pads? I >do > > not want to put more money into these calipers unless I will be able to > > match the stock braking. With the info you have supplied I will >probably > > not be able to match the stock lever pull. > > ==================================== > > Thomas and Carrie Powell > > 1994 NOS injected > > Tourmaster V-Max > > "LAFGAS" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=957019 > > ==================================== > > > According to the XJR workshop manual the master cylinder is 14mm in > > diameter, > > > caliper ID is listed as 30.2 and 27mm.(I assume the same as the R1) > > > The V-Max lists the master as having a 15.87mm bore and caliper >diameters > > of > > > 33.96 and 30.33mm. > > > So tell me brake experts, what is the net effect hydraulically of >using > > the R1 > > > caliper with the bigger bore master of the V-Max? > > > Secondly, if I could adapt the XJR master to the Max would I be on the > > right > > > track? > > > > > > Sam Blumenstein #795 > > > > > > > ............................................. > > To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm > > ............................................. > >............................................. >To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm >............................................. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ............................................. To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .............................................