Being an old intent does not change anything... In Blink anyway, the
standard process is to give at least heads up for at least a single release
with a deprecation warning, unless the user is effectively zero (say,
0.0001 and lower). In your case, the usage is non-zero (0.0015), which
means you will almost surely cause exceptions to be thrown, possibly
breaking some websites and wreaking havoc without a prior notice.

Is it far too complicated to emit a deprecation warning and delay the
removal by a single release?
If adding a deprecation warning is a somewhat trivial change, you might
even be able to merge it to Chrome 51 (the current beta) and remove
completely in Chrome 52 (as planned). Not ideal, but a good start.


☆*PhistucK*

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Daniel Ehrenberg <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Unfortunately there were no deprecation warnings emitted. However, this
> Intent was sent out months ago.
>
> Dan
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 1:28 AM, PhistucK <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Did you emit deprecation warnings for the usage, or did you just UseCount
>> them and now plan to break those 0.0015% without prior notice...?
>>
>>
>> ☆*PhistucK*
>>
>> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Daniel Ehrenberg <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I ended up adding UseCounters and waiting for results to come in.
>>> Finally, they did: none of these three methods were used very much, the
>>> most frequent (Promise.defer()) occurring in .0015% of document loads.
>>> Therefore, I have unshipped them in V8 in
>>> https://codereview.chromium.org/1965183002 , which should make it to
>>> Canary soon. Please let me know if there is further evidence of breakage,
>>> and this can be reconsidered.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Daniel Ehrenberg <[email protected]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think it'll be enough to let this be in Canary at first and see what
>>>> bug reports come in. I know there are some usages, but I think
>>>> developers will have an easy time converting their code to use 'then'
>>>> instead of 'chain'. They have to do so anyway if they want their
>>>> websites to work in browsers other than Chrome. It would be a simple
>>>> find and replace, or a few lines added to the top of the file to
>>>> establish the aliases. The semantics are slightly different, but these
>>>> differences should only come up in rare edge cases.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:02 AM, PhistucK <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > I agree that this is a good change, of course, but you really should
>>>> find
>>>> > out whether this breaks a lot of website first (the fact the
>>>> developers do
>>>> > not mention this does not mean they are not using it)...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ☆PhistucK
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Daniel Ehrenberg <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We don't have any use counters, but the names were rather obscure,
>>>> and
>>>> >> the ES2015 Promise conventions seem to have stuck more. I have not
>>>> >> heard from any users which were in support of the old Promise API,
>>>> but
>>>> >> on the other hand, the fact that V8 does not currently meet the
>>>> ES2015
>>>> >> Promise specification is a frequent complaint from both users and
>>>> >> frameworks. There is no way to support both ES2015 Promise semantics
>>>> >> per spec and Promise.prototype.chain at the same time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dan
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 2:57 PM, PhistucK <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> > Are there any use counters for them? Did you check whether they
>>>> are used
>>>> >> > in
>>>> >> > the wild?
>>>> >> > (The HTTP archive can help here, or any internal Google index
>>>> searching
>>>> >> > you
>>>> >> > may have)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > ☆PhistucK
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 12:50 AM, 'Daniel Ehrenberg' via blink-dev
>>>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> V8 had added a few functions for manipulating Promises which
>>>> didn't
>>>> >> >> make it into the ES2015 standard, namely Promise.prototype.chain,
>>>> >> >> Promise.accept and Promise.defer. ES2015 specifies Promises in a
>>>> way
>>>> >> >> which is incompatible with some of these methods, and none of them
>>>> >> >> appear to be on track to be included in a standard the future.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I have added a flag to V8 and Chrome (--js-flags=--promise-extra)
>>>> to
>>>> >> >> retain the current additional promise features. I intend to flip
>>>> the
>>>> >> >> flag off by default in general within a few days, with the aim of
>>>> V8
>>>> >> >> version 4.9 branching without additional Promise functions.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Dan
>>>> >> >>
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>>>
>>>
>>
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