Leo agreed that this change makes sense to propose as a PR.  As usual, we
will include it in the ECMA 402 update at TC39, which will be the
opportunity for plenary members to voice concerns over this path.

Shane


On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 9:39 PM Shane Carr <s...@google.com> wrote:

> We have a history of PRs in ECMA 402 for "small" changes.  Here is a list:
>
>
> https://github.com/tc39/ecma402/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed+Normative
>
> The PRs often involve changes to reflect web reality / ICU behavior.  We
> are discussing with the ECMA 402 editors on how we want to handle Frank's
> work, as a PR or as a staged proposal.  I am leaning toward PR because this
> is only extending an existing API schema (Intl.DateFormat) in a way that is
> fully consistent with other options in that schema.
>
> Shane
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 6:43 PM Frank Tang (譚永鋒) <ft...@google.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 01:31, Adam Klein <ad...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 1:11 AM Frank Tang <ft...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Contact emails ft...@chromium.org,js...@chromium.org Explainer
>>>> https://github.com/tc39/ecma402/pull/346
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'd like to better-understand the ECMA 402 process around small
>>> additions like this (and your other email about "quarter"). Will this
>>> become a formal proposal (and an attached issue,
>>> https://github.com/tc39/ecma402/issues/343) the extent of the
>>> specification process for this feature? Is there a "stage" process for
>>> these things?
>>>
>>
>> Thank about this point. I actually brought this issue up to ECMA402 chair
>> sffc@ about should I group them into one proposal or deal with them as
>> separated PR. And Shane also loop in Daniel about this. Shane is following
>> up this too. Some of the changes bigger this one, such as the BigInt /
>> Intl.NumberFormat  support went through as a PR and this is not really a
>> "big new feature" but rather some minor improvement on pre-existing API so
>> I try to follow the same track. There are several issues all independent
>> from each other and group them together into one proposal might create
>> unnecessary dependency (for example, the week of year and week of month has
>> CLDR/ ICU issues which will take a much longer time to address) and propose
>> each one of them as individual proposal (so there will be 4) seems too
>> much.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Frank
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Design docs/spec Specification:
>>>> https://github.com/tc39/ecma402/pull/346
>>>> https://github.com/tc39/ecma402/pull/346 TAG review No TAG review
>>>> needed since it is part of TC39 ECMA402 Summary Add dayPeriod option
>>>> to Intl.DateTimeFormat so the caller can format time such as "7 in the
>>>> morning", "11 in the morning", "12 noon", "1 in the afternoon", "6 in the
>>>> evening", "10 at night" (or in Chinese "清晨7時", "上午11時", "中午12時", "下午1時"
>>>> ,"下午6時" ,"晚上10時") Motivation It enhances the Intl.DateTimeFormat API
>>>> to match what the developer cal already do in C++ and Java by calling ICU
>>>> and ICU4J. Without this feature, developer need to either format the
>>>> quarter in the server or ship a set of day period pattern and hour to day
>>>> period mapping logic from the server to client to perform such task.
>>>> Risks
>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility low. *Firefox*: No public signals
>>>> *Edge*: No public signals *Safari*: No public signals *Web developers*:
>>>> No signals Ergonomics No increase of data. All required data already
>>>> build into ICU.
>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>> Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? Yes Is this
>>>> feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>> ? Yes Tests will be added into test262 before we consider shipping it. Link
>>>> to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>> https://www.chromestatus.com/features/6520669959356416
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Frank Yung-Fong Tang
>> 譚永鋒 / 🌭🍊
>> Sr. Software Engineer
>>
>

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