hi.

On May 4, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Benjamin Coddington wrote:

If I might suggest something not open source (aahhh!).. not free.. (aaaaahhh!).. check out 37signals. Its the good stuff.


Caveat Emptor: YMMV

Yeah, a good Web 2.0 app sure seems fresh and slick, but I am not a very happy user of Basecamp. For what Basecamp is good for, it is all fine and good and all that, but from what I've read, don't try to ask 37signalz to improve it unless you're wearing a flame suit. Having used it to attempt to manage students on a 15 week development project, it turned into an epic fail in comparison to the usual F/OSS suspects of Subversion, Trac, SourceForge, et al. Once you go beyond the pre-packaged ruby-on-rails "basic stuff" that 37signals has, you'll find yourself suddenly up a creek without a paddle. Try moving your data away from basecamp/projectpath sometime (Gee, does S3 support WebDAV?). Their very naive notion of "version control" on files seems to be more harmful than helpful (Good meta-data anyone?). These "hinderances" grow large when you start managing any project of complexity (ie: software development). There are a great many other F/ OSS solutions available for a wide variety of requirements.

Otherwise, I guess I'm confused by the original post, because the available options are likely to be limited by the hosting plan.

On May 3, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Stanley Brinkerhoff wrote:
1. Manage coverage of a physical facility/project (Ie, bill is on from 9-2, sam is on from 1-5-- fairly simple) 2. Manage sales calendars (again, fairly simple -- nothing too complex)
3. Share files between users
4. Have a forum for discussion.


I suggest the following option, and YMMV: Trac with added plugins from Trac-hacks, along with the Subversion back-end.

Plugins are available for most of the features you're likely to be interested in.
http://trac.edgewall.org/
http://trac-hacks.org/

Of course, when you start poking around in the plugins, you'll find loads of useful things:
http://teamtrac.org/Page.php?id=1000
http://www.tutos.org/homepage/about.html
http://www.kimai.org/

And of course, there are all kinds of other things, like RT from bestpractical.

There's my $0.02.

Thanks!

have a day.yad
jdpf

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