Hi Tobi;

I don't have an answer for you offhand, but the current "eclair" model eliminates one of the reasons we needed the new syntax for C_Class -- that a class name could refer to two VM-level types. This is no longer the case; each VM type corresponds to exactly one classfile.

The reason I can't give you an unqualified yes at this point is that I am not sure whether we still need to include a "Q" somewhere as a preload signal.  When Q descriptors appear in certain places (e.g., field declarations), they generate load order constraints, and in other places, they generate nullity assumptions.

I will leave it to Frederic to answer whether we have run out of reasons to need anything other than binary class names in C_Class structures.  (It would be nice if we have!)

On 4/1/2020 10:19 AM, Tobi Ajila wrote:

Hi Brian

Thanks for the updated SoV docs. In section 4, it mentions:

> In most cases, such as field descriptors and method descriptors, uses of C.ref is translated as LC$ref;, uses of C.val is translated as QC$val;,

In the LW2 spec the `name_index` in `CONSTANT_Class_info` structures could refer to "binary class or interface name" as well as "ReferenceType descriptors" which referenced UTF8s with 'Q' descriptors. In LW2 inline-types were both nullable and null-free so it was necessary to have ReferenceType descriptors in order make a distinction in CONSTANT_Class_info structures for things like allocating arrays. With the new model inline-types can only be null-free, so will the CONSTANT_Class_info structures be limited to binary class or interface names? or will ReferenceType descriptors be used for inline-types?

--Tobi

"valhalla-spec-experts" <valhalla-spec-experts-boun...@openjdk.java.net> wrote on 2020/03/27 03:59:38 PM:

> From: Brian Goetz <brian.go...@oracle.com>
> To: valhalla-spec-experts <valhalla-spec-experts@openjdk.java.net>
> Date: 2020/03/27 03:59 PM
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Updated SoV documents
> Sent by: "valhalla-spec-experts" <valhalla-spec-experts-
> boun...@openjdk.java.net>
>
> I've updated the SoV documents, including the new sections on VM
> model and translation:
>
> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~briangoetz/valhalla/sov/01-background.html
>


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