There are 5 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Eelaththu Noolaham
From: "Sritharan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2. Re: Tamil Speaking Muslims of Sri Lanka
From: "Muhammad Fazli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3. Portuguese encounter Reply to Satkurunathan
From: mforumsl
4. Re: Portuguese encounter Reply to Satkurunathan
From: "RVS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5. Re: Tamil Speaking Muslims of Sri Lanka
From: "RVS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:47:01 +1100
From: "Sritharan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Eelaththu Noolaham
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:12:59 +0300
From: "Muhammad Fazli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tamil Speaking Muslims of Sri Lanka
No doubt it is true that a majority f Muslims in Sri Lanka speak Tamil
in their homes. However, it is also true that many Muslims living in
Sinhala areas speak Sinhala, viz the South. Furthermore, many of the
Aristocratic Muslims living in Colombo speak English at home mainly
because of the influence of the British Raj upon their lifestyle.
One of the main reasons for the majority of Muslims in Sri Lanka to have
adopted Tamil as a language is because of the fact that their Arab
ancestors, who were traders, wee located mainly on the coastal belts f
the island and were involved in trading with the Tamil trading
communities from South India who controlled the trade in the island
during the early times. The Sinhalese were involved, mainly in
agriculture and also concentrated their societies inland rather than on
the coastal belts.
The fact that the majority f he Muslims in Sri Lanka descended from the
Arabs cannot be disputed as proved without any doubt by the late ILM
Abdul Azeez in his refutation and criticism of Sir Ponnambalam
Ramanathen's assertion in Parliament that all Muslims were of Tamil
origin in his Ethnology of the Moors of Ceylon, Ref:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~lkawgw/ethnomoor.html
Regards
Fazli Sameer
Webmaster
Sri Lanka Genealogy Website
http://www.rootsweb.com/~lkawgw
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:53:43 -0000
From: mforumsl
Subject: Portuguese encounter Reply to Satkurunathan
2006-01-17
Portuguese encounter Reply to Satkurunathan
By Janaka Perera
Raveen Satkurunathan writing in the Asian Tribune of January 8,
2006, seems to have got his wires crossed about the conference on
the 500th Anniversary Portuguese Encounter held at the BMICH Colombo
on Dec.10-11, 2005. His comments display either total ignorance or
total disregard for what was actually discussed at the conference.
He goes at a tangent talking of Gujaratis, Veddas, Mahawansa, Sinha
Bahu clan, Diaz Bandaranaike clan, the Celts, Normans Danes, the
JVP, etc. etc. issues that had nothing to do with the confab.
Perhaps Satkurunathan is so obsessed with the 'evil' of so-called
Sinhala Buddhist Chauvinism that he is incapable of any rational
thinking.
Anyone who attended the BMICH conference will know that the topic of
discussion was Portuguese colonization in Asia with special emphasis
on Sri Lanka and Goa. The Indian participants comprised V. Swami,
Shrikant Ramani and Z. Khan.
No conference participant shifted the blame for all of Sri Lanka's
current social ills on to the Portuguese colonizers or alleged that
they caused today's Sinhala-Tamil problem a subject which was not
a topic of discussion. The issue was not who suffered more under the
Portuguese administration Sinhalese or Tamils - but the adverse
impact it had on Sri Lanka's pre-colonial society as a whole and
some of its effects that are seen today in relation to the country's
ancestral religion and culture (both Hindu and Buddhist).
Among the papers presented at the conference was one on oppressive
proclamations, decrees and laws enacted by the Portuguese
authorities in both Goa and Sri Lanka, and cited as examples various
instances of acts of persecution, discrimination and destruction of
places of worship of Buddhists, Hindus and Muslims. The underlying
theme of the paper was the cognizance of the irony that some Western
countries that champion human rights today and lecture on religious
liberty to descendants of the persecuted victims of the Third World
are the very same countries that had in the past systematically
violated the human rights of the colonized non-Christian societies.
The conference was the result of a year's exhaustive study by the
Portuguese Encounter Group (that included Sinhalase, Tamils and
Muslims) on the Portuguese colonization in Sri Lanka.
Every major historical event leads to a chain reaction that is felt
for centuries. It is in this context any sensible person ought to
study history - whether it is Portuguese colonization or any other
subject.
Satukurunathan talks of positive aspects of Portuguese colonization.
Every one with an iota of knowledge of Sri Lanka's colonial period
knows that Portuguese rule was the worst in comparison to the mixed
blessings of the Dutch and British colonial regimes. The latter at
least left us with some worthwhile legacy in the form of
architecture, legal systems, canals, road and railway networks, a
global language among others. During their rule violence and armed
conflicts were far less when compared to the Portuguese period.
Satkurunathan is free to let his mind run riot. But If he truly
wants to ascertain facts about the BMICH conference he may contact
Hema Goonatilake so that he can at least have a look at the extracts
of what was discussed at the conference.
http://www.asiantribune.com/show_news.php?id=756
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:04:41 -0000
From: "RVS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Portuguese encounter Reply to Satkurunathan
Hello,
Thanks for forwarding Janaka's reply. At lest I got
someone upset, but what I want is the Sinhalese to
think about the genesis of this ethno religious
strife.
It is because of the machinations of a segment of the
coastal Sinhalese with South Indian heritage who want
to be superior Sinhalese via the Virulent Buddhist
(VB) message that are holding the country ransom.
First their target was Muslims in 1915, then it is the
Tamils and in between the Muslims became a target too
and are of secondary importance now as the perennial
'other'. This 'other' is needed to keep VB relevant to
the common man. Once they are done with SL Tamils, no
matter what the Mulims do to assimilate, they too will
becoame a target of the JVP/JHU unless they become
Buddhists.
This nature to overshoot ones new found nationalism by
new adherents to a creed or identity is common across
the world. We just have to identify it for what it is.
Napoleon was a superior French, but he was a Corsican.
Hitler was a superior German, but he was an Austrian.
Stalin was the most Xenophobic Russian but he was a
Georgian by birth.
Even in neighboring Tamil Nadu, the ardent Tamil
nationalists usually are the Telugu naiks including
EVR, Karunanidhi and Y Goplaswamy.
Human beings act more out of s sub conscious level
rather than rational. So I understand Janaka being
upset because after all he too carries a Iberian
surname (Perera) and possibly of
Karave/Durave/Salagama origins.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:24:03 -0000
From: "RVS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tamil Speaking Muslims of Sri Lanka
Majority of Muslims of Sri lanka are Tamil Speaking but not Tamils.
But Muslims of Tamil Nadu are Tamil Speaking are Tamils. Identity is
what one individual or community decides for what ever reason it is.
There are large percentage of Sinhalese with Tamil racial origins,
but except a very few like Colvin R De Silva (a prominent politicians
of yore) they will not accept it and they are Sinhalese. This is true
of Tamils with Sinhalese racial origins too.
Muslims of Sri Lanka, Tamil Nadu Coromondal coast, Mapillas of
Kerala, Swahilis of east Africa and Huis of China are a by product of
Middle Eastern (Aramaic, Arabic, Yemeni, Omani, Persian but
Islamic...) commercial and marital interaction with indigenous
people. They carry the cultural and genetic traits of both sides.
My point is for Muslims of Sri Lanka to speak Tamil exclusively (not
Malayalam, Arabic, Urdu or Sinhalese) has to be because majority of
them came from the Coromondal coast of Tamil Nadu.
Tamil was not the Lingua Franka of commerce before the Arabs came,
Tamils were part of the great Indic commercial groups, infact they
were a minority amongst Indian merchant guilds.
In no way were the Tamil merchant guilds were able to impart their
language on an ascending and eventually superior Arab commercial
class.
The only reason for the Muslim merchant class in Sri lanka to speak
Tamil or Sonkam is because they were already Tamil speaking in India.
Arabs were a minority where ever they went so in East Africa, it is
the Bantu Swahili with a lot of Arabic/Persian loan words that became
the dominant language. In China, the numerous Hui people speak
Manadarin, in Kerala they speak Malayalam, in TN they speak Tamil
(actually Sonakam a dialect of Tamil with Arabic/Persian loan words)
In Sri Lanka they speak Sonakam not a Sinhalese hybrid with Arabic
like everywhere else. Why ?
--- In varalaaRu@yahoogroups.com, "Muhammad Fazli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> No doubt it is true that a majority f Muslims in Sri Lanka speak
Tamil
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