Dear Maxine

The topology would be as follows

Public |--------| VBox NAT Network process |Private Network 1 10.0.2.0| Router 
VM |Private Network 2 10.0.3.
0

With a routable private network behind the NAT router. This is industry 
standard.

However the NAT router needs sufficient information to deliver incoming packets 
other than for its own subnet to another router, either because it has static 
routes, default router or understand RIP. This is normal.

I understand that the NAT network process is intended to be simple and support 
basic functionality, however my topology is industry standard, and others may 
wish to do training, etc on this type of configuration.

I would be content with the most basic support, eg default router. However I do 
not know the demand for this.

Regards

Malcolm



On 04/10/2016 09:34, Maxime Dor wrote:
Malcolm,

Just to be clear, is this your topology?

Public |--------| VBox NAT Network process |---------| Router VM |---------| 
Hidden network

If so, I'm not aware of options to include static routes into the NAT engine of 
VirtualBox, but I also don't see why you would need to.
it's the job of the router VM to also do NAT to hide that final network, else 
you need the "public" routers to know about that hidden network but that 
defeats the point of using NAT in the first place.
If this is your topology, I feel you're just using the wrong tool for the job.

If your topology is different, let us know and we'll help further!

On 03/10/16 22:34, Malcolm Clarke wrote:

Dear Maxine

The problem is that a packet can eminate from a VM on the hidden subnet and is 
correctly routed by the internal router to the NAT router (the internal server 
contains the NAT as its default router), and so the packet is sent to the 
public network. The NAT router will correctly create an entry in the mapping 
table with the return IP address. However when a packet returns from the public 
network, even though the NAT router can substitute the correct destination IP 
address for the hidden subnet, it does not have the routing information to 
deliver the packet to the internal router for it to be returned to the VM on 
the hidden network.

It would therefore require some simple mechanism to add static routes (or 
private side default gateway) to the NAT router.

Using a bridge will not work as that would require configuring "public" routers 
to deliver packets to the internal router. NAT is the best solution.

Regards

Malcolm

On 03/10/2016 13:58, Maxime Dor wrote:
Hi Malcom,

That is on purpose - being behind a NAT network means you want to hide any 
subnet connect to that network from the outside world.
Any outgoing connection will look like it came from the NAT Router "public" IP.
If you want to allow specific connections to be allowed in, you need to 
configure port forward - so far, I don't think I tell you anything new.

But if you need the "outside" world to know about "inside" networks, then NAT 
is not the right choice. You need to switch to a non-NAT solution like Bridged 
mode (or Host-Only with routing enabled on the host) and the "outside" world 
needs to know about those "inside" network with two possibilities:
- Static routes on all routers that need to deal with those subnets
- Internal routing protocol like RIP, EIGRP or OSPF that will auto-detect 
routes and populate routing tables of routers.

On 03/10/16 13:30, Malcolm Clarke wrote:
Dear Development Group

I am trying to demonstrate routing in a virtualised network created using 
VirtualBox with a FreeBSD server acting as router between 2 virtual networks. 
One network is set as NAT Network to allow access to outside world. However, 
although packets can be directed from the router to the NAT router for outward 
delivery, the NAT router does not know how to deliver the incoming packets for 
the "hidden" subnet.

I wonder if anyone has modified the NAT network to allow simple static routes 
or default gateway to support this cnfiguration.

I do not know the interest for this functionality and whether the work is 
justified for the use that would be made.

Regards

Malcolm


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Department of Computer Science

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Department of Computer Science

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