Thank you, I will be ordering that serial adapter today. Do the drivers come with it or do I need to get them from somewhere else??
Susan Stein -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: vbox-users Digest, Vol 8, Issue 18 Send vbox-users mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://vbox.innotek.de/mailman/listinfo/vbox-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of vbox-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Question about express card support in XP guest (Luis Gallardo) 2. Re: Question about express card support in XP guest (Michael Thayer) 3. Re: Question about express card support in XP guest (Gregory Nowak) 4. Re: Question about express card support in XP guest (Michael Thayer) 5. screen readers, and the qt3 interface revisitted (Gregory Nowak) 6. Re: screen readers, and the qt3 interface revisitted (Dmitry A. Kuminov) 7. Disk Full (Ray Wadkins) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:00:26 -0400 From: "Luis Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [vbox-users] Question about express card support in XP guest To: "VirtualBox end user list" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You can use an USB to Serial adapter. On a Windows VM you only need the drivers and it'll see it as a new COM. This is the one I used: http://www.amazon.com/USB-Serial-RS-232-Adapter-Cable/dp/B000BI95W0/ref=pd_b bs_sr_2/105-1955887-3058045?ie=UTF8&s=office-products&qid=1187265386&sr=8-2 On 8/16/07, Susan Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, I have an HP laptop and I need to add a DB9 serial port to it for a > piece of work equipment. I found an item at this website: > http://www.usbgear.com/computer_cable_details.cfm?sku=SS-AS1RS&cats=302&cati d=1302%2C496%2C585%2C538%2C464%2C468 > > > > That functions via my express card slot. My question is, is my express card > supported in VB using Vista as host and XP as guest. Would it work like my > USB devices work? > > > > Thanks > > Susan -- Saludos, Luis Gallardo ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:52:11 +0200 From: Michael Thayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [vbox-users] Question about express card support in XP guest To: VirtualBox end user list <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello Susan, The next version of VirtualBox will support host serial ports, so this at least ought to work. Regards, Michael Susan Stein wrote: > Hi, I have an HP laptop and I need to add a DB9 serial port to it for a > piece of work equipment. I found an item at this website: > http://www.usbgear.com/computer_cable_details.cfm?sku=SS-AS1RS&cats=302&cati d=1302%2C496%2C585%2C538%2C464%2C468 > <http://www.usbgear.com/computer_cable_details.cfm?sku=SS-AS1RS&cats=302&cat id=1302%2C496%2C585%2C538%2C464%2C468> > > > > That functions via my express card slot. My question is, is my express > card supported in VB using Vista as host and XP as guest. Would it work > like my USB devices work? > > > > Thanks > > Susan ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:05:30 -0700 From: Gregory Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [vbox-users] Question about express card support in XP guest To: VirtualBox end user list <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Does that include on-board serial ports, as well as showing a usb serial port as a standard serial port to the guest, (I.E. no drivers for the usb to serial converter required in the guest)? If so, then thank you, thank you, thank you Innotek!!! Any idea as to when the next version will be released? Greg On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 03:52:11PM +0200, Michael Thayer wrote: > Hello Susan, > > The next version of VirtualBox will support host serial ports, so this > at least ought to work. > > Regards, > > Michael > - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGxJHq7s9z/XlyUyARAsmSAJ0SBGNU29E2TIq7OMGvjfn/lAd5YQCg1ABr VWSzyeyqTdKjZ28Qck19ABM= =d4tG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:20:03 +0200 From: Michael Thayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [vbox-users] Question about express card support in XP guest To: VirtualBox end user list <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello Gregory, In this case, thank Alexander Eichner, who contributed the code. The next release is planned for the end of the month, although that is not set in stone. Regards, Michael Gregory Nowak wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Does that include on-board serial ports, as well as showing a usb > serial port as a standard serial port to the guest, (I.E. no drivers > for the usb to serial converter required in the guest)? If so, then > thank you, thank you, thank you Innotek!!! Any idea as to when the > next version will be released? > > Greg > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 03:52:11PM +0200, Michael Thayer wrote: >> Hello Susan, >> >> The next version of VirtualBox will support host serial ports, so this >> at least ought to work. >> >> Regards, >> >> Michael ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:53:45 -0700 From: Gregory Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [vbox-users] screen readers, and the qt3 interface revisitted To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, especially those on this list from innotek. You may recall that my first post to this list mentioned that I access windows using a screen reader called window-eyes, and that the virtualbox gui interface is inaccessible to blind users. For reference, this thread can be found at: http://vbox.innotek.de/pipermail/vbox-users/2007-July/001803.html I've gotten around to contacting gw-micro, the makers of window-eyes, regarding this issue, and I sent them the following message. "From: Gregory Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: wineyes support for virtualbox Hello. I recently began using a virtual machine emulator called virtualbox: http://www.virtualbox.org While I'm able to manage virtual machines inside of virtualbox using the vboxmanage command-line interface, I am not able to do so in the gui interface, as described below in a portion of my post to the virtualbox users mailing list. "Could innotek please consider either implementing the gui interface to virtualbox as standard windows controls, or exposing components of the current gui through Microsoft Active Accessibility, so as to make the gui usable by people such as myself, who access windows using a screen reader? The screen reader I personally use is called window-eyes <http://www.gwmicro.com/Window-Eyes>.> I've been able to make the current gui slightly usable with window-eyes, by tricking it into thinking the gui custom control is really an mdi window, but this approach still leaves much to be desired, especially since the whole gui uses the same class and window style for all controls, thus making it impossible for the end-user to try to trick window-eyes into distinguishing the individual controls in the gui interface. Gw-Micro has some tips for developers wishing to make their products usable with screen readers at <http://www.gwmicro.com/Developers/>, and they are willing to help companies make their products accessible." Actually, I did make a mistake in the above when posting to the virtualbox users list, in saying that I reclassed the custom control as an mdi window. In fact, I actually reclassed the custom control as a multidocument window. While it is eventually possible to create and manage virtual machines in the gui interface, provided the custom control has been reclassed as a multidocument window, and provided that one uses the mouse keys almost exclusively, the process is tedious at best. Below is the response I got on this issue from innotek. "From: Klaus Espenlaub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: VirtualBox end user list <[email protected]>" - --- snip --- "If converting to standard windows control is the only way to get it to work with such screen readers, then it's probably nothing that will happen in the short to medium term. The VirtualBox GUI is based on the Qt library (version 3) for portability reasons. The very same GUI source code is used for Windows, Linux, MacOS X and soon other OSes like Solaris and OS/2. It is too much effort to implement a native GUI on each of those platforms. If it's possible to make Qt3 work better with screen readers, then our GUI developers may find some time to implement the necessary changes eventually - but they need information on that." Would it be possible for GW Micro to work with Innotek on this issue, or to contribute necessary fixes to the gui code, so that it would play nice with window-eyes, since that part of virtualbox at least, is open source? Thank you. Regards, Greg Nowak" Here is the response I got from gw-micro to my message. "Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:54:55 -0400 From: "Raul Gallegos (GW Micro Tech Support)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Gregory Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: Aaron Smith' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Michael D. Lawler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: wineyes support for virtualbox Hello Greg. It's been a long time. The problem is Qt3, as mentioned. The chances of Qt3 developers to implement MSAA is next to nil, because they're platform independent. Once they have to "hack" for Windows, they loose platform independence, and they're not willing to do that. At least, that's what we've been told before by these types of cross platform, open source establishments in the past. If you can get us a contact a Qt3, however, we'd be happy to discuss it with them. - -- Raul" It seems to me then, that Klaus from innotek, and Raul from gw-micro have tentatively extended olive branches. Is there a qt3 developer from innotek, who would be willing to contact gw-micro to discuss the issue, or whose contact info I may pass on to gw-micro? Thanks. Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGxQ257s9z/XlyUyARAmY9AJ4uxo3PCvvNMYEZQVU4l/CDM5Bm7ACfdMfd V068lOF+u23XzCDOZk350SQ= =YjmY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:37:29 +0400 From: "Dmitry A. Kuminov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [vbox-users] screen readers, and the qt3 interface revisitted To: VirtualBox end user list <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello Gregory, Gregory Nowak wrote: > Hello all, especially those on this list from innotek. You may recall > that my first post to this list mentioned that I access windows using > a screen reader called window-eyes, and that the virtualbox gui > interface is inaccessible to blind users. For reference, this thread > can be found at: [skip] Thank you for the information you provided. Qt actually provides some level of accessibility support on Windows and Mac platforms which is currently disabled (due to some technical and licensing issues) in the binary Qt builds distributed with VirtualBox. A quick research showed that once this support is enabled in Qt, there is a great chance that the screen reader you mentioned (and probably other similar devices) will support VirtualBox out-of-the-box. We will invest some time in this task as soon as there are free resources for it. If someone from the community knows examples of Qt applications that successfully work with devices like Window-Eyes, please comment here. -- keep cool, Dmitry A. Kuminov ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:00:05 -0400 From: "Ray Wadkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [vbox-users] Disk Full To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a Windows XP host running VirtualBox 1.4.0 with one guest running CentOS 4. The guest keeps pausing and the following strings show up in the error log: 01:03:59.852 PIIX3 ATA: Host disk full 01:03:59.853 Console: VM runtime error: fatal=false, errorID=DevATA_DISKFULL message="Host system reported disk full. VM execution is suspended. You can resume after freeing some space" 01:03:59.853 PIIX3 ATA: Ctl#0: redo DMA operation 01:03:59.853 Changing the VM state from 'RUNNING' to 'SUSPENDED'. The host has two drives, the machine file is on drive C which is reported to have 9.4GB free. The vdi file is on drive D which is reported to have 30.4 GB free. The vdi is set to 7.8 GB in size (I'll make it bigger when I move it to a box with more space) and is nowhere near full (actual size 4.0, according to Virtual Disk Manager). I'm not sure why it thinks I'm running out of space. Any ideas? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://vbox.innotek.de/pipermail/vbox-users/attachments/20070816/a140fa85/at tachment.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ vbox-users mailing list [email protected] http://vbox.innotek.de/mailman/listinfo/vbox-users End of vbox-users Digest, Vol 8, Issue 18 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ vbox-users mailing list [email protected] http://vbox.innotek.de/mailman/listinfo/vbox-users
